Ravens at Redskins Post Game Thread (RG3 MRI Result-Sprained Knee)

[donofriose]

Kerrigan has proven he cannot cut it. Teams have been single blocking him and taking him out of the game. Does the same thing every play. I think a 3-4 DE would increase our pass rush. Possibly switch to wade Philips one gap 3-4 and draft a dynamic 3-4 end. We still need a MLB because our run defense is not good and linebackers can't cover tight ends. Pass rush makes your pass defense incredibly better.

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by donofriose

Kerrigan has proven he cannot cut it. Teams have been single blocking him and taking him out of the game. Does the same thing every play. I think a 3-4 DE would increase our pass rush. Possibly switch to wade Philips one gap 3-4 and draft a dynamic 3-4 end. We still need a MLB because our run defense is not good and linebackers can't cover tight ends. Pass rush makes your pass defense incredibly better.

Kerrigan certainly benefits from having Orakpo on the other side, but I have to disagree with the idea that he "cannot cut it". His total tackles are slightly down from last year, but his sack totals will likely be higher. He obviously hasn't had quite the same impact as last season, but that's to be expected when the primary pass rusher is on IR and he has to pick up the slack, basically by himself.

And in spite of the fact that the Redskins were gouged by Ray Rice yesterday, they're still seventh in the league against the run, and giving up less than 100 yards per game. They are by no means, bad against the run.

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

Kerrigan certainly benefits from having Orakpo on the other side, but I have to disagree with the idea that he "cannot cut it". His total tackles are slightly down from last year, but his sack totals will likely be higher. He obviously hasn't had quite the same impact as last season, but that's to be expected when the primary pass rusher is on IR and he has to pick up the slack, basically by himself.

And in spite of the fact that the Redskins were gouged by Ray Rice yesterday, they're still seventh in the league against the run, and giving up less than 100 yards per game. They are by no means, bad against the run.

We are 16th and YPA, so we are mediocre, against the run it is just that teams don't try to run the ball against us because we are so bad against the pass. Otherwise we would be worst against the run. Plus our offense is so high tempo that we force other teams to pass more often.

[Mechanix544]

Originally Posted by donofriose

We are 16th and YPA, so we are mediocre, against the run it is just that teams don't try to run the ball against us because we are so bad against the pass. Otherwise we would be worst against the run. Plus our offense is so high tempo that we force other teams to pass more often.

Very true statement. The ease with which Joe frikkin Flacco picked us apart in the first half was disgusting. Hopefully, C Griff will upgrade the CB just a tad when he gets back, and hopefully we can get the terrible tandem of Doughty and Madoodoo WIlliams back on the bench. Our safety play is the most important position to fill come the offseason. Just one average player at either of the safety positions would translate into a much better pass defense, and with the addition of Orakpo coming back, it will be that much better. Things are definitely looking up for the defense, as long as we can get rid of Doughty and Williams.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by Mechanix544

Very true statement. The ease with which Joe frikkin Flacco picked us apart in the first half was disgusting. Hopefully, C Griff will upgrade the CB just a tad when he gets back, and hopefully we can get the terrible tandem of Doughty and Madoodoo WIlliams back on the bench. Our safety play is the most important position to fill come the offseason. Just one average player at either of the safety positions would translate into a much better pass defense, and with the addition of Orakpo coming back, it will be that much better. Things are definitely looking up for the defense, as long as we can get rid of Doughty and Williams.

I'll admit; our defense has been gelling a lot better lately, and that we have been playing well in the 2nd half (its too bad we can't adjust in the first half; then the defense would be ranked higher)

Watching the game yesterday, beside our poor pass rush and our awful secondary, I noticed yesterday on the two Boldin TDs that we had Madieu ''doo doo'' williams playing cover 1 (meaning center field safety). He is, well by seeing boldin had 2 TDs, awful at that. But a safety who is great at that..Jarius Byrd. As a matter of fact, thats really all Buffalo has him playing...not saying, just saying (oh whats that he's going to be a FA ?!?)

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by donofriose

We are 16th and YPA, so we are mediocre, against the run it is just that teams don't try to run the ball against us because we are so bad against the pass. Otherwise we would be worst against the run. Plus our offense is so high tempo that we force other teams to pass more often.

If the Redskins are middle of the pack in rushing YPA allowed, how would that equate to 'worst against the run' if teams decided to run more? I don't follow the math.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

If the Redskins are middle of the pack in rushing YPA allowed, how would that equate to 'worst against the run' if teams decided to run more? I don't follow the math.

What he's saying is we suck at both on defense, and that since we suck a little more at pass defense teams just attack that so much and see no point in running the ball on us when they can just have a field day passing on us.

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

What he's saying is we suck at both on defense, and that since we suck a little more at pass defense teams just attack that so much and see no point in running the ball on us when they can just have a field day passing on us.

I know what his argument is, and it's still purely conjecture. Washington is seventh in rushing YPG allowed, and tied for 13th in YPA allowed. They are also tied for ninth in rushing TD's allowed. All of those numbers refute the idea that the Redskins would have the worst rush defense in the league if other teams would simply hand the ball off more often.

Yes, they were torched by and elite back in Ray Rice, but earlier in the season they held Adrian Peterson to less than 80 yards(the last team to hold him under 100) without a touchdown, and held him to his third lowest YPA for the season.

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

I know what his argument is, and it's still purely conjecture. Washington is seventh in rushing YPG allowed, and tied for 13th in YPA allowed. They are also tied for ninth in rushing TD's allowed. All of those numbers refute the idea that the Redskins would have the worst rush defense in the league if other teams would simply hand the ball off more often.

Yes, they were torched by and elite back in Ray Rice, but earlier in the season they held Adrian Peterson to less than 80 yards(the last team to hold him under 100) without a touchdown, and held him to his third lowest YPA for the season.

Tied for 13th also means they are tied for 16th. Two ways to look at that stat.
Adrian Peterson only got the ball 17 times and rushed for 79 yards for an average of 4.6 yards a carry. They just did not give him the ball enough. Mainly because they were losing badly. We were up 24-9 by the middle of the third quarter. Teams are not likely to run the ball against you if they have to catch up from that deficit. I do believe that the defense has improved and they are creating turnovers. But one also has to realize that the reason our run defense looks good is because teams often have to play catch up. The saints and the cowboys both ran the ball around 10 times each. When teams stuck with the run, Like Carolina, Pitt, NYG they have had success. Baltimore was tearing us up, but Cam Cameron always does the same thing and that is put the game in Flacco's hands, and of course he got fired later for this. If we have to play a run oriented team in the playoffs (if we make it) like Seattle and they stick with the run I don't believe our defense can hold up.

[Swarley]

Originally Posted by donofriose

Kerrigan has proven he cannot cut it. Teams have been single blocking him and taking him out of the game. Does the same thing every play. I think a 3-4 DE would increase our pass rush. Possibly switch to wade Philips one gap 3-4 and draft a dynamic 3-4 end. We still need a MLB because our run defense is not good and linebackers can't cover tight ends. Pass rush makes your pass defense incredibly better.

is this real life?

Kerrigan has been rather good without a consistent pass rushing force on the other side.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Swarley

is this real life?

Kerrigan has been rather good without a consistent pass rushing force on the other side.

Or without a good NT.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Or without a good NT.

Cofield needs more respect, he's been playing well.

Someone else sees it here

All-NFC East Team: Week 14 update - NFC East Blog - ESPN

[Swarley]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Cofield needs more respect, he's been playing well.

Someone else sees it here

All-NFC East Team: Week 14 update - NFC East Blog - ESPN

I'd agree with that. The guy that needs to step up on the d-line is Jenkins. We saw a bit of that yesterday for a few plays and it seemed to make everyone else's job much easier once he was getting a decent push.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Cofield needs more respect, he's been playing well.

Someone else sees it here

All-NFC East Team: Week 14 update - NFC East Blog - ESPN

I'm not going to argue against a ESPN writer like Graziano (since I'm just a yahoo posting my opinions on an internet forum), but I just feel that Cofield is not as good as some of the other typical 3-4 NTs and he'd be better suited as a DE in our defense. He's a good player by all means, but during those long runs by Ray Rice, I thought he was getting manhandled by Birk.

[SkinsGuru]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I'm not going to argue against a ESPN writer like Graziano (since I'm just a yahoo posting my opinions on an internet forum), but I just feel that Cofield is not as good as some of the other typical 3-4 NTs and he'd be better suited as a DE in our defense. He's a good player by all means, but during those long runs by Ray Rice, I thought he was getting manhandled by Birk.

i'm with you on this one . . . i think coefiled is over rated and better suited to play the 3-4 defensive end position . . . how about a real NT, with coefield, bown and carriker rotating on the ends . .