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[Giantone]

Originally Posted by MTK

I was talking about what's happening today and the anti FBI rhetoric from the right that is obviously stoking the fires of MAGA idiots.

Jan 6th all over again!

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Jan 6th all over again!

That's cute.

You are really going to compare one armed man trying to breach a security screening area at an FBI field office to what happened on Jan 6?

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

That's cute.

You are really going to compare one armed man trying to breach a security screening area at an FBI field office to what happened on Jan 6?

No I talking about all the call to arms from FOX and the trump republicans to defund the FBI , rhetoric that riles up the mass's and starts BS. I get it ....turn a blind eye.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by Giantone

No I talking about all the call to arms from FOX and the trump republicans to defund the FBI , rhetoric that riles up the mass's and starts BS. I get it ....turn a blind eye.

I'm not turning a blind eye... I just choose to reserve judgment until I know what really happened there. You can jump to your conclusions all you want.

Let's talk about turning a blind eye when fuckers were walking up to policemen in their squad cars and shooting them in the head, while all the left-leaning politicians were stoking the fires with their anti-police rhetoric.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I'm not turning a blind eye... I just choose to reserve judgment until I know what really happened there. You can jump to your conclusions all you want.

Let's talk about turning a blind eye when fuckers were walking up to policemen in their squad cars and shooting them in the head, while all the left-leaning politicians were stoking the fires with their anti-police rhetoric.

Little bit of an overstatement there. It was the right who turn police reform into some sort of attack on police. And the police forces across the country had put on full display a complete and utter need for reform. For years before George Floyd.

On top of that, social inequality is worth fighting for. Not some cunt like Donald Trump.

Also, Chief, almost the entire GOP has come out against the FBI in the last 24 hours. Democrats hardly went that far with “anti police rhetoric “. Killing unarmed black people during routine traffic stops is a little more of a problem than searching the house of one man who apparently has broken many laws. To try and compare the two underlying issues is asinine.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Little bit of an overstatement there. It was the right who turn police reform into some sort of attack on police. And the police forces across the country had put on full display a complete and utter need for reform. For years before George Floyd.

On top of that, social inequality is worth fighting for. Not some cunt like Donald Trump.

That's flat out BS. While the 'right' called it what it was, it was the actions and rhetoric of the 'left' that brought it on.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Also, Chief, almost the entire GOP has come out against the FBI in the last 24 hours. Democrats hardly went that far with “anti police rhetoric “. Killing unarmed black people during routine traffic stops is a little more of a problem than searching the house of one man who apparently has broken many laws. To try and compare the two underlying issues is asinine.

I agree, killing unarmed black people (or any people) during routing traffic stops is more of a problem than searching Trump's residence - the two cannot be compared, nor was I doing so. I'm just saying there is a lot of talk about stoking the fires right now, but no one wanted to admit when the fires were being stoked over the past several years causing innocent law enforcement officers to lose their lives.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I agree, killing unarmed black people (or any people) during routing traffic stops is more of a problem than searching Trump's residence - the two cannot be compared, nor was I doing so. I'm just saying there is a lot of talk about stoking the fires right now, but no one wanted to admit when the fires were being stoked over the past several years causing innocent law enforcement officers to lose their lives.

And I am saying that alot of that fire was stoked by the extreme right who blew up police reform and turned it into “they don’t support police” because it was politically advantageous. Trying to make the left look like they were anti police. Which is NONSENSE. The extreme right would rather make the left the criminals than address the problem and they could care less about officers losing their lives because of a theme they took to flight.

Never did the left embrace any sort of any anti law enforcement rhetoric- they wanted reform and deservedly so. There is no comparison really in history for the dangerous anti law enforcement rhetoric the GOP has been party to in the last couple days.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I'm not turning a blind eye... I just choose to reserve judgment until I know what really happened there. You can jump to your conclusions all you want.

Let's talk about turning a blind eye when fuckers were walking up to policemen in their squad cars and shooting them in the head, while all the left-leaning politicians were stoking the fires with their anti-police rhetoric.

This and it still happening ^

Boom

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I'm not turning a blind eye... I just choose to reserve judgment until I know what really happened there. You can jump to your conclusions all you want.

Let's talk about turning a blind eye when fuckers were walking up to policemen in their squad cars and shooting them in the head, while all the left-leaning politicians were stoking the fires with their anti-police rhetoric.

My next door neighbor's son did that about 3-4 years ago to an Alexandria bike cop, I disagreed with his decision then and I still do now.

Everybody wants things to be so black and white - when in reality we absolutely need police and law and order, but we also need police to do a better job in certain circumstances and we also need them to be held accountable when necessary. Nobody wants to have that conversation though, you either buy a thin blue line flag and stfu when a cop kneels on a guy's neck for 9 minutes for no reason or you need to go join the BLM protests for wanting innocent black people to stop being harassed for no reason.

I also find it hilarious the pro-law enforcement crowd is so quick to their defense only to howl about unfair treatment when their favorite politician's house gets raided because he still won't return all the fucking classified info despite signing a bill that makes it a felony in his first year in office.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by mooby

My next door neighbor's son did that about 3-4 years ago to an Alexandria bike cop, I disagreed with his decision then and I still do now.

Everybody wants things to be so black and white - when in reality we absolutely need police and law and order, but we also need police to do a better job in certain circumstances and we also need them to be held accountable when necessary. Nobody wants to have that conversation though, you either buy a thin blue line flag and stfu when a cop kneels on a guy's neck for 9 minutes for no reason or you need to go join the BLM protests for wanting innocent black people to stop being harassed for no reason.

I also find it hilarious the pro-law enforcement crowd is so quick to their defense only to howl about unfair treatment when their favorite politician's house gets raided because he still won't return all the fucking classified info despite signing a bill that makes it a felony in his first year in office.

I agree with this 100 percent.

I am pro law enforcement. It's a tough job man, and I'm glad there are still men and women willing to do it. I also know there are bad cops, and cops who make mistakes, but they don't represent the majority. I have friends who are cops, whose wives wonder if they'll be the next cop targeted, and I have friends who are black, whose wives worry if they or their kids will come home every time they leave the house. Not being either, I can't truly know how that feels, but I know it's a problem worth having the conversations about.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I agree with this 100 percent.

I am pro law enforcement. It's a tough job man, and I'm glad there are still men and women willing to do it. I also know there are bad cops, and cops who make mistakes, but they don't represent the majority. I have friends who are cops, whose wives wonder if they'll be the next cop targeted, and I have friends who are black, whose wives worry if they or their kids will come home every time they leave the house. Not being either, I can't truly know how that feels, but I know it's a problem worth having the conversations about.

I’ve still never met or known anyone about who defends the cop who killed George Floyd, yet I’ve met a lot of folks and know personally some who believe cops kill people daily for no reason and the majority of the police are corrupt.

That’s the big problem, because once you present them with the facts, they refuse to believe the data.

And to add, there are still terrible police out there..and anyone who is a cop and abusing that authority should be locked up after being prosecuted to the fullest. No exceptions. The DOJ should be vetting out departments that have systematic issues, that breed corrupt practices

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I agree with this 100 percent.

I am pro law enforcement. It's a tough job man, and I'm glad there are still men and women willing to do it. I also know there are bad cops, and cops who make mistakes, but they don't represent the majority. I have friends who are cops, whose wives wonder if they'll be the next cop targeted, and I have friends who are black, whose wives worry if they or their kids will come home every time they leave the house. Not being either, I can't truly know how that feels, but I know it's a problem worth having the conversations about.

Preach Chief. We agree on this.