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[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by mooby

My next door neighbor's son did that about 3-4 years ago to an Alexandria bike cop, I disagreed with his decision then and I still do now.

Everybody wants things to be so black and white - when in reality we absolutely need police and law and order, but we also need police to do a better job in certain circumstances and we also need them to be held accountable when necessary. Nobody wants to have that conversation though, you either buy a thin blue line flag and stfu when a cop kneels on a guy's neck for 9 minutes for no reason or you need to go join the BLM protests for wanting innocent black people to stop being harassed for no reason.

I also find it hilarious the pro-law enforcement crowd is so quick to their defense only to howl about unfair treatment when their favorite politician's house gets raided because he still won't return all the fucking classified info despite signing a bill that makes it a felony in his first year in office.

I agree with this 100 percent.

I am pro law enforcement. It's a tough job man, and I'm glad there are still men and women willing to do it. I also know there are bad cops, and cops who make mistakes, but they don't represent the majority. I have friends who are cops, whose wives wonder if they'll be the next cop targeted, and I have friends who are black, whose wives worry if they or their kids will come home every time they leave the house. Not being either, I can't truly know how that feels, but I know it's a problem worth having the conversations about.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I agree with this 100 percent.

I am pro law enforcement. It's a tough job man, and I'm glad there are still men and women willing to do it. I also know there are bad cops, and cops who make mistakes, but they don't represent the majority. I have friends who are cops, whose wives wonder if they'll be the next cop targeted, and I have friends who are black, whose wives worry if they or their kids will come home every time they leave the house. Not being either, I can't truly know how that feels, but I know it's a problem worth having the conversations about.

I’ve still never met or known anyone about who defends the cop who killed George Floyd, yet I’ve met a lot of folks and know personally some who believe cops kill people daily for no reason and the majority of the police are corrupt.

That’s the big problem, because once you present them with the facts, they refuse to believe the data.

And to add, there are still terrible police out there..and anyone who is a cop and abusing that authority should be locked up after being prosecuted to the fullest. No exceptions. The DOJ should be vetting out departments that have systematic issues, that breed corrupt practices

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I’ve still never met or known anyone about who defends the cop who killed George Floyd, yet I’ve met a lot of folks and know personally some who believe cops kill people daily for no reason and the majority of the police are corrupt.

Carlson replied: "So, they destroy the city, they put this cop in prison for the rest of his life. We all have to pretend he committed murder, which he didn't, but whatever, we have to pretend it, and then they leave and they move on to the next thing to destroy. So perfect."
https://www.newsweek.com/tucker-carl...-floyd-1730298

Political affiliation emerged as the most divisive dictator of opinions on the trial’s outcome, with 90% of Democrats saying jurors reached the right verdict, while a slim majority (54%) of Republicans said the same.

Nearly half (46%) of the Republicans surveyed felt the jury had come to the wrong decision in convicting Chauvin of murder versus just 10% of Democrats and 25% of Independents who thought the verdict was wrong.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimam...h=430a3b1366e8

I think you may be more left than most Rs on this one Chico. The poll .. only 2.5k polled and there is a difference in "was floyd murdered" vs "was guilty verdict correct". so it is what it is

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Good discussion in here last few pages

Lets go Skins

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Carlson replied: "So, they destroy the city, they put this cop in prison for the rest of his life. We all have to pretend he committed murder, which he didn't, but whatever, we have to pretend it, and then they leave and they move on to the next thing to destroy. So perfect."
https://www.newsweek.com/tucker-carl...-floyd-1730298

Political affiliation emerged as the most divisive dictator of opinions on the trial’s outcome, with 90% of Democrats saying jurors reached the right verdict, while a slim majority (54%) of Republicans said the same.

Nearly half (46%) of the Republicans surveyed felt the jury had come to the wrong decision in convicting Chauvin of murder versus just 10% of Democrats and 25% of Independents who thought the verdict was wrong.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimam...h=430a3b1366e8

I think you may be more left than most Rs on this one Chico. The poll .. only 2.5k polled and there is a difference in "was floyd murdered" vs "was guilty verdict correct". so it is what it is

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Good discussion in here last few pages

Lets go Skins

Murder = premeditation…I think that what Tucker is emphasizing here. Eh, I don’t hear any defense of the police action. Newsweek is shit source to be honest, here they are spreading fake news propaganda about the raid:

https://www.foxnews.com/media/newswe...bis-trump-raid

Only to have Garland come out and say he did.

So the poll you posted have the majority on both sides agreeing, which is great.
Here is Michael Brown poll after they correctly didn’t indict the officer that shot him after Eric holder carried his ass back to Washington agreeing Michael Brown getting shot didn’t warrant charges against the officer:

https://time.com/3613454/ferguson-poll-racial-partisan/

More than three-quarters of Republicans agreed that Wilson shouldn’t have been charged, while 27% of Democrats agreed. It’s like Democrats don’t care these hero’s patrolling the streets nor the facts of the case.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I agree with this 100 percent.

I am pro law enforcement. It's a tough job man, and I'm glad there are still men and women willing to do it. I also know there are bad cops, and cops who make mistakes, but they don't represent the majority. I have friends who are cops, whose wives wonder if they'll be the next cop targeted, and I have friends who are black, whose wives worry if they or their kids will come home every time they leave the house. Not being either, I can't truly know how that feels, but I know it's a problem worth having the conversations about.

Preach Chief. We agree on this.

[Giantone]

The unredacted Warrant that was released to the press has also released the names of the FBI agents who were just doing their jobs , they are now being threaten with their address being released/ shared on line.

[Giantone]

Business Insider
'It's over' for the Trump Organization if its CFO Allen Weisselberg pleads guilty, legal analyst and ex-prosecutor says



https://news.yahoo.com/over-trump-or...084044668.html


"Once Allen Weisselberg pleads guilty, it's over for the Trump Organization," said Andrew Weissmann, a law professor at New York University and former lead prosecutor under Robert Mueller, on MSNBC's "The Last Word" with Lawrence O'Donnell.

He said that crimes committed by Weisselberg would be attributed to the Trump Organization, meaning the company would also be held responsible for the charges.

The Trump Organization is scheduled to face trial on October 24. If Weisselberg does not take a plea deal and goes to court, he will face trial alongside the business group. Both he and the Trump Organization have pleaded not guilty.

"So the leverage in terms of the financial consequences to Donald Trump doesn't mean he's going to jail, but the consequences for the Trump Organization are huge," Weissman said.

"Remember, for those people who think Donald Trump did this in part for money, that he's venal, this is a big deal," he added.

Weissman said that if he were advising Trump on handling the list of investigations and lawsuits against him, he would prioritize dealing with the consequences of Weisselberg's plea deal.

Trump currently faces six lawsuits, three criminal investigations, and a civil investigation on top of his indictment by the Manhattan District Attorney's office. He has also filed two lawsuits — one against his niece, Mary Trump, and another against his former election rival Hillary Clinton.

[Giantone]

LOL, the trump Kids are as stupid as chico is!


https://news.yahoo.com/eric-trump-sa...080220266.html

INSIDER
Eric Trump said the Republican Party is 'actually the Trump party,' claiming his father changed how the GOP operate.

Eric Trump said on Wednesday that the Republican party should be called "the Trump party."

He referred to his father's endorsement record as a sign of his influence in the GOP.

He said Donald Trump had "redefined" the Republican party and how it operates.

Eric Trump said on Wednesday that his father, former President Donald Trump, is the key defining feature of the GOP and that the Republican party should be known as the "Trump party."

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by Giantone

LOL, the trump Kids are as stupid as chico is!

https://news.yahoo.com/eric-trump-sa...080220266.html

INSIDER
Eric Trump said the Republican Party is 'actually the Trump party,' claiming his father changed how the GOP operate.

Eric Trump said on Wednesday that the Republican party should be called "the Trump party."

He referred to his father's endorsement record as a sign of his influence in the GOP.

He said Donald Trump had "redefined" the Republican party and how it operates.

Eric Trump said on Wednesday that his father, former President Donald Trump, is the key defining feature of the GOP and that the Republican party should be known as the "Trump party."

I'm all for no parties, or as many parties as possible. I actually wish there was a Trump party. They should create their own separate party. Then they can all get matching shirts and walk around together, and the rest of us can go back to normal.