Code Red all HANDS on deck Skins vs Saints prediction thread

[30gut]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

RG3 and Alfmo are def gone from the team in the offseason, McC gonna get his guys.

I think the #1 question facing the team this offseason will be Gruden/McVay status. I think McVay is most certainly done. Will Jay be too?

Wow. If we lose Griffin, Almo and Jay and McVay that would really suck from a team building perspective.

Imo Jay and McVay are played a large role in Griffin and Alf being gone.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Wow. If we lose Griffin, Almo and Jay and McVay that would really suck from a team building perspective.



Imo Jay and McVay are played a large role in Griffin and Alf being gone.

Oh come on - Griff had ample opportunity. He is as good as gone and that ship sailed months ago. How in the hell is Gruden responsible for the fact that Griff cannot read defenses?

[30gut]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Oh come on - Griff had ample opportunity. He is as good as gone and that ship sailed months ago. How in the hell is Gruden responsible for the fact that Griff cannot read defenses?

The HC/playcaller always plays a role in the success or failure of their players.

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by 30gut

The HC/playcaller always plays a role in the success or failure of their players.

Based on that logic, fire Bill Calahan?

[30gut]

Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

Based on that logic, fire Bill Calahan?

That wouldn't be based on what I said at all. But its a free country...

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by 30gut

That wouldn't be based on what I said at all. But its a free country...

Right, but the coaches play a huge role in what we're seeing on the field?

He is the run game coordinator, play suggestor, guru according to all the reports.

The run game has sucked since the Rams game.

Originally Posted by 30gut

Reputation is great. Production is better.

Are you talking about Callahan or McVay?

[30gut]

Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

Right, but the coaches play a huge role in what we're seeing on the field?

He is the run game coordinator, play suggestor, guru according to all the reports.

The run game has sucked since the Rams game.

I'm pretty sure you already know that your wild leap to conclusion doesn't follow at all from what I said.

First of all no where do I suggest firing a coach. Second I said the HC/playcaller plays a role and Callahan is neither. He has no power or authority over which plays are called he's merely a 'suggestor' as you put.

Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

Are you talking about Callahan or McVay?

Who? McVay.
You're the one talking about Callahan.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by 30gut

The HC/playcaller always plays a role in the success or failure of their players.

So does the player. In Roberts case that is 100%. When and if he goes elsewhere - we will see that. I will always love him for 2012 but he is a bust. Sad but true.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Wow. If we lose Griffin, Almo and Jay and McVay that would really suck from a team building perspective.

Imo Jay and McVay are played a large role in Griffin and Alf being gone.

So you wanna wait longer or do it?

[30gut]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

So you wanna wait longer or do it?

I'm saying the opposite.

Piggy backing on your post earlier I agree that Griff and Alf look like they're gone.
IF Jay and Scott don't pan out that would really suck.
We went from having optimism in 2013 with a potential "franchise" QB and RB and a young bright coaching staff to essentially having nothing.

No HC, no OC, no QB and no RB.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by 30gut

I'm saying the opposite.

Piggy backing on your post earlier I agree that Griff and Alf look like they're gone.
IF Jay and Scott don't pan out that would really suck.
We went from having optimism in 2013 with a potential "franchise" QB and RB and a young bright coaching staff to essentially having nothing.

No HC, no OC, no QB and no RB.

Cousins and Matt jones...new hc, new oc. And new additional drafted qb and new drafted/free agent rb. New Drafted WR and free agent WR. And new drafted TE. Things move quickly

[SFREDSKIN]

Why do people want to replace Mcvay? He's thought to be the next big thing as an assistant coach, he does have good blood lines, his grandfather was the GM for the 49ers at their height. He could be our version McDaniel in NE. No problem with him.

[30gut]

Reputation is great. Production is better.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Why do people want to replace Mcvay? He's thought to be the next big thing as an assistant coach, he does have good blood lines, his grandfather was the GM for the 49ers at their height. He could be our version McDaniel in NE. No problem with him.

We are still in the thick of the division race. We have been thee most injured team as far as starters go. Lets not forget our injuries from preseason alone - paul, gillete, st ace whose name escapes me. We are coming off two four win seasons compliments of the old regime. Why do people want to replace anyone. Before the year started SF - i think you were the only one expecting big things. Everyone on this board had us winning 4-7 games tops. Now everyone is disgusted? Wtf?

[30gut]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Cousins and Matt jones...new hc, new oc. And new additional drafted qb and new drafted/free agent rb. New Drafted WR and free agent WR. And new drafted TE. Things move quickly

But in the case you present with Jay and McVay being replaced then we're moving on from a QB and RB with high level proven NFL production (albiet in a different scheme) for unknowns based on in your scenario a failed HC and OC.

Which would beg the question was it the chicken or the egg?

The NFL is not for long and I'm okay with change if there is improvement but not change for change sake.

Like it or not, the best course for the franchise is to keep our fingers crossed and hope the triumvirate of Jay-McVay-Cousins experiment works out.

Or else we're blowing it up.