Casserly Keeping his options open

Bill B · 12-19-2006, 02:35 PM

Interesting read on Charley Casserly and what he is up to. Doubt he will ever come back to Redskin Park but according to Shapiro he lives back in DC now and did not get the NFL position he was seeking....

Casserly Keeping His Options Open - washingtonpost.com

hesscl34 · 12-19-2006, 02:37 PM

< yawn >

freddyg12 · 12-19-2006, 02:48 PM

I just read this too, good post. I don't see him comin back, but this article shows how our front office lacks contacts & networking w/in the league, IMO, and CC at least did a good job of finding out about players. If he were here we wouldn't have signed AA.

jsarno · 12-19-2006, 02:56 PM

Didn't Casserly draft Heath Shuler?

MTK · 12-19-2006, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jsarno

Didn't Casserly draft Heath Shuler?

I'd blame that on Norv.

It was a lose/lose that year anyway, it was either Shuler or Dilfer.

jsarno · 12-19-2006, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I'd blame that on Norv.

It was a lose/lose that year anyway, it was either Shuler or Dilfer.

Shuler or a superbowl champion??????

redsk1 · 12-19-2006, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jsarno

Didn't Casserly draft Heath Shuler?

You can't 2nd guess that one. Everyone had Dilfer and Shuler as can't misses at the time.

ArtMonkDrillz · 12-19-2006, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jsarno

Shuler or a superbowl champion??????

That's true, but it's also ture that Dilfer is the prime example used in the arguement that a team doesn't need a good QB to win a Superbowl.

jsarno · 12-19-2006, 03:09 PM

Take a look at this link of the 1994 draft...there were PLENTY of big players on that list, but that might have been the worst QB draft year of all time.
NFL.com - Draft History

Bill B · 12-19-2006, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I'd blame that on Norv.

It was a lose/lose that year anyway, it was either Shuler or Dilfer.

Quite true. I am a huge SEC fan and I think if you asked anyone who followed the SEC if Heath Shuler was going to be a good pro they would have said yes.

What the current front office does not do is somehing I wish someone at Redskin Park would be able to pull off was the trade Casserly made with Mike Ditka when we got all the draft picks from the Saints - absolute steal.

But I don't see Gibbs working with any GM as he wants to prove to everyone that holding down both the coach and GM positions can work.

MTK · 12-19-2006, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill B

What the current front office does not do is somehing I wish someone at Redskin Park would be able to pull off was the trade Casserly made with Mike Ditka when we got all the draft picks from the Saints - absolute steal.

A trade like that would only happen again is if Ditka came back to coach.

Nobody is that crazy to give away so much, that one fell into our laps.

Bill B · 12-19-2006, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

A trade like that would only happen again is if Ditka came back to coach.

Nobody is that crazy to give away so much, that one fell into our laps.

You have to give Casserly some props for making that happen though.

freddyg12 · 12-19-2006, 03:18 PM

Casserly can be pegged w/some bad picks, as most gm's can. Shuler was not a bad pick, he just didn't turn out to be the player we'd hoped, there's a big difference. You can only draft guys based on their past & their potential. Shuler had big upsides w/both, w/no history of off field problems. That he didn't become a solid pro qb is for many reasons, but I bet the vast majority of GMs at the time had him rated high. Same w/Desmond Howard, good guy, good teamate, never became a star (except his SB MVP).
I would go so far as to say that Norv screwed up Shuler's confidence by opting for Frerotte, when in that preseason they were neck and neck. Shuler had a lot more upside.
Bad draft picks & personel decisions happen when teams take players that have a history they DIDN'T find out about, whether it's a bad knee or rap sheet.

TheMalcolmConnection · 12-19-2006, 03:23 PM

Bill B. = Casserly.

Bill B · 12-19-2006, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Bill B. = Casserly.

You figured it out!

Actually I am not saying get Casserly tommorow - I just prefer the team hire a competent GM with a good long term vision of building through the draft and picking up a good free agent or two to compliment the mix.

I think you would agree like most on the board that Vinny Cerrato is not that person as he left the 49ers in shambles and his track record here is not something to brag about.

How many teams in the NFL would bring in Vinny Cerrato as their main personelle man? Maybe the Lions as Matt Millen is awful. Other than that I thnk most teams would take a pass on him and tell Cerrato he can get his online gig at ESPN he used to have.

12-19-2006, 02:35 PM	#1
Bill B Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 721	Casserly Keeping his options open Interesting read on Charley Casserly and what he is up to. Doubt he will ever come back to Redskin Park but according to Shapiro he lives back in DC now and did not get the NFL position he was seeking.... Casserly Keeping His Options Open - washingtonpost.com

12-19-2006, 02:37 PM	#2
hesscl34 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Germantown, MD Posts: 2,782	Re: Casserly Keeping his options open < yawn >

12-19-2006, 02:48 PM	#3
freddyg12 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,540	Re: Casserly Keeping his options open I just read this too, good post. I don't see him comin back, but this article shows how our front office lacks contacts & networking w/in the league, IMO, and CC at least did a good job of finding out about players. If he were here we wouldn't have signed AA.

12-19-2006, 02:56 PM	#4
jsarno Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: 31 Spooner St. Age: 49 Posts: 9,534	Re: Casserly Keeping his options open Didn't Casserly draft Heath Shuler? __________________ Zoltan is ZESTY! - courtesy of joeredskin

12-19-2006, 03:09 PM	#9
jsarno Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: 31 Spooner St. Age: 49 Posts: 9,534	Re: Casserly Keeping his options open Take a look at this link of the 1994 draft...there were PLENTY of big players on that list, but that might have been the worst QB draft year of all time. NFL.com - Draft History __________________ Zoltan is ZESTY! - courtesy of joeredskin

12-19-2006, 03:18 PM	#13
freddyg12 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,540	Re: Casserly Keeping his options open Casserly can be pegged w/some bad picks, as most gm's can. Shuler was not a bad pick, he just didn't turn out to be the player we'd hoped, there's a big difference. You can only draft guys based on their past & their potential. Shuler had big upsides w/both, w/no history of off field problems. That he didn't become a solid pro qb is for many reasons, but I bet the vast majority of GMs at the time had him rated high. Same w/Desmond Howard, good guy, good teamate, never became a star (except his SB MVP). I would go so far as to say that Norv screwed up Shuler's confidence by opting for Frerotte, when in that preseason they were neck and neck. Shuler had a lot more upside. Bad draft picks & personel decisions happen when teams take players that have a history they DIDN'T find out about, whether it's a bad knee or rap sheet.

12-19-2006, 03:23 PM	#14
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: Casserly Keeping his options open Bill B. = Casserly. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

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