Yet Another QB Rumors Thread (Volume 9)

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

I don't know... watching Tannehill run as a qb- he looks very impressive. He would give defenses fits with his running ability. He's not in the same category as RGIII, but I think he's close- maybe better in some areas because of his experience and skill at wideout. I think he beats Luck in terms of running skills and athleticism - hands down. Once Tannehill gets his passing skills and decision-making caught up to his running ability, he will be dangerous.

He just doesn't though. Luck routinely breaks off runs that have him outrunning college corners. Tannehill has his fair share of breakaway TD runs as well, but we're not talking about two guys in the same class.

Luck is going to be a great threat with his legs in the pros regardless of system. Tannehill is more than capable of running the ball within the context of the system, with designed boots and rollouts and draws and such, but he's not Andrew Luck or Cam Newton or Robert Griffin physically. He's just not the same guy.

I think a better comp, athletically, would be Stafford.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

He just doesn't though. Luck routinely breaks off runs that have him outrunning college corners. Tannehill has his fair share of breakaway TD runs as well, but we're not talking about two guys in the same class.

Luck is going to be a great threat with his legs in the pros regardless of system. Tannehill is more than capable of running the ball within the context of the system, with designed boots and rollouts and draws and such, but he's not Andrew Luck or Cam Newton or Robert Griffin physically. He's just not the same guy.

I think a better comp, athletically, would be Stafford.

The best part about the NFL you really don't need to spend all this draft picks and you really don't need those types of QB's to get to and or win the SB. Curt Warner was no Luck, RGIII, or Cam Newton. Eli is a slow runner and Big Ben can't run to save his life. Drew Breese is borderline he sucked in San Diego which is why they got rid of him. And then ther is Andy Dalton. I guess this year we will get to see if he is good or an anomaly.

Folks you don't need an RGIII to win the SB just a half decent OL to protect him, a QB who can make all the throws, and some decent WR's who can catch a ball which we don't have other then Moss and Gaffney.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

The best part about the NFL you really don't need to spend all this draft picks and you really don't need those types of QB's to get to and or win the SB. Curt Warner was no Luck, RGIII, or Cam Newton. Eli is a slow runner and Big Ben can't run to save his life. Drew Breese is borderline he sucked in San Diego which is why they got rid of him. And then ther is Andy Dalton. I guess this year we will get to see if he is good or an anomaly.

Folks you don't need an RGIII to win the SB just a half decent OL to protect him, a QB who can make all the throws, and some decent WR's who can catch a ball which we don't have other then Moss and Gaffney.

And let's not forget Tom Brady the 6th rounder.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

The best part about the NFL you really don't need to spend all this draft picks and you really don't need those types of QB's to get to and or win the SB. Curt Warner was no Luck, RGIII, or Cam Newton. Eli is a slow runner and Big Ben can't run to save his life. Drew Breese is borderline he sucked in San Diego which is why they got rid of him. And then ther is Andy Dalton. I guess this year we will get to see if he is good or an anomaly.

Folks you don't need an RGIII to win the SB just a half decent OL to protect him, a QB who can make all the throws, and some decent WR's who can catch a ball which we don't have other then Moss and Gaffney.

Perhaps you're forgetting that Warner played at an elite level for awhile... Eli played elite in the clutch at the very least.. and Brees is borderline what? Amazing?

So you're content with a hot year or two.. only to wonder what we have a couple of years later... if we will consider the next guy being worth giving up on our guy for? Like the Browns this year? Maybe the only team that had a hot decade without the same QB or equal next guy would be well, us... and people will always bring up the shortened seasons that brought us two trophies... and sure Rypien was good for the third.. but today he is best known for having a daughter in the lingerie football league...

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

Perhaps you're forgetting that Warner played at an elite level for awhile... Eli played elite in the clutch at the very least.. and Brees is borderline what? Amazing?

So you're content with a hot year or two.. only to wonder what we have a couple of years later... if we will consider the next guy being worth giving up on our guy for? Like the Browns this year? Maybe the only team that had a hot decade without the same QB or equal next guy would be well, us... and people will always bring up the shortened seasons that brought us two trophies... and sure Rypien was good for the third.. but today he is best known for having a daughter in the lingerie football league...

Woow, I didn't know that. All I'm saying is you don't need a (young healthy) P.Manning to get to the SB and win it. If you have a good OL, good WR's, a good running game, and a half decent QB you can make it and win also. Everyone is acting like we have to have the best of the best to get there and give up whatever it takes to get it. I'm not buying the it.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

The best part about the NFL you really don't need to spend all this draft picks and you really don't need those types of QB's to get to and or win the SB. Curt Warner was no Luck, RGIII, or Cam Newton. Eli is a slow runner and Big Ben can't run to save his life. Drew Breese is borderline he sucked in San Diego which is why they got rid of him. And then ther is Andy Dalton. I guess this year we will get to see if he is good or an anomaly.

Folks you don't need an RGIII to win the SB just a half decent OL to protect him, a QB who can make all the throws, and some decent WR's who can catch a ball which we don't have other then Moss and Gaffney.

Big Ben is actually considered a mobile QB. In fact his mobility is a big part of the reason he had so much success early on.

Ben Roethlisberger Scouting Report - Scouts, Inc.
Grade: 93 | Key

Comment: Roethlisberger is a big, strong-armed quarterback with above average athleticism. He has quick feet for his size and can slide and improvise to make effective throws downfield. He is the toughest quarterback in the league to get on the ground with great instincts to avoid pressure and natural body strength to break tackles. He has great vision and patience to find his second and third options but can be a bit of a gambler.

As for Drew Bees.

Grade: 94 | Key

Comment: Brees is one of the most consistent passers in the league. He can make plays from the pocket and has the foot quickness and speed to extend the pocket to make plays from the perimeter. He has a great working knowledge of the passing game and excels when it comes to reading coverages and adjusting on the move. He knows how to game plan and sees possibilities as they develop. He brings a great combination of a physical skill set and intelligence to the table.

The one thing that most Super Bowl winning QB's share in this day and age is the ability to extend the play.

And while you may not need an RGIII to win a Super Bowl you still need an elite QB to compete year in and year out.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Big Ben is actually considered a mobile QB. In fact his mobility is a big part of the reason he had so much success early on.




As for Drew Bees.


The one thing that most Super Bowl winning QB's share in this day and age is the ability to extend the play.

And while you may not need an RGIII to win a Super Bowl you still need an elite QB to compete year in and year out.

Big Ben is a huge freak who sheds tackles. I could be wrong, but I believe someone was trying to make the point that Brees and Big Ben weren't guys that teams weren't clamoring to trade up for. Brees was a second rounder and Eli and Rivers were taken before Ben. I believe the point is that there always seems to be a guy taken AFTER the big name can't miss guys who goes on to be great.

I'm not saying we don't make the move for RGIII. Just don't be surprised when someonel like Tannehill or Foles is lighting it up for a team who didn't have to go to extremes to get him. We're always grasping.