NFL Coaching Rumors and Moves

hooskins · 01-06-2011, 11:14 AM

SFRedskin, how so?

MTK · 01-06-2011, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by GMScud

Well, Spurrier also didn't have much work ethic as a head coach. The guy thought he could play 72 holes of golf a week and still make it as an NFL HC . I don't really see that kind of attitude from Harbaugh. He seems like a pretty awesome coach to me, at least on the college level.

I think his 15 years in the NFL will certainly help. He knows the deal.

No doubt Harbaugh seems to have the drive that Spurrier lacked. That will definitely be a big factor in whether he makes it at the next level.

hooskins · 01-06-2011, 11:28 AM

Look I am not saying he won't be a good coach in the pros. I am saying just based on his college success, NFL experience as a player and his kin doesn't translate into that kind of salary.

Don't say the free market has spoken. The NFL is quite the opposite of a purely private entity. It is also hyper inflated by a certain media network. I was listening to Mike and Mike this morning, and he was mentioning exactly what I was thinking about last night. The salary is a flaw in the system and needs to be regulated, just like the rookie salary. When you create a regulated league which is given monopolistic rights, it needs to be kept in check constantly.

SFREDSKIN · 01-06-2011, 11:43 AM

The reason the Dolphins are paying that much is because they really want him and don't want him going elsewhere. Jim Harbaugh is the real deal, trust me. His brother John was a special teams coach at Philly for years and look how that turned out? Jim has 15 years experience as player and 2 as a QB coach in the NFL, he has a passion,fire and is very competitive, remember him as "captain comeback". At one point someone has to give him a chance. Remember when Joe Gibbs was hired by the Redskins, people were going who the hell is this guy?

freddyg12 · 01-06-2011, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

So if Harbaugh signs and Henne stays. That's Owner, Head Coach, QB...all Michigan alums

Denard Robinson, future dolphins wildcat qb!

SmootSmack · 01-06-2011, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by freddyg12

Denard Robinson, future dolphins wildcat qb!

LOL...forgot about Jake Long too

mooby · 01-06-2011, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by hooskins

Who cares if you played in the NFL or your brother coaches? How does that directly translate in your ability to COACH an NFL team? It doesn't and we have seen that proven in the past.

Hey, I'm not arguing that it helps them be a better coach, I'm just saying teams look at that as a positive. I'm not a fan of hiring college coaches at all just because of the Spurrier ordeal. Hoo you should know by now that sometimes logic doesn't always work in the NFL. Spurrier never should've been hired in the first place but that didn't stop Snyder. Same thing with all the other retread college coaches, Bobby Petrino never should've left college football.

EDIT: And could've mentioned this before but he runs a pro style offense at Stanford. If you think that doesn't factor into it as well you'd be wrong.

SFREDSKIN · 01-06-2011, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mooby

EDIT: And could've mentioned this before but he runs a pro style offense at Stanford. If you think that doesn't factor into it as well you'd be wrong.

And most of his staff at Standford are ex-NFL coaches like Vic Fangio the DC.

Chico23231 · 01-06-2011, 12:09 PM

I think Harbaugh will be an exception to the rule, but its a super gamble to take a college coach and then on top to give him a ton of money. Listening to Chris Landry the other day, he was saying the best coaches were first seasoned cordinators. To give a college coach over 5 mil per season in his first NFL HC job is absurd

skinsfan69 · 01-06-2011, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

The reason the Dolphins are paying that much is because they really want him and don't want him going elsewhere. Jim Harbaugh is the real deal, trust me. His brother John was a special teams coach at Philly for years and look how that turned out? Jim has 15 years experience as player and 2 as a QB coach in the NFL, he has a passion,fire and is very competitive, remember him as "captain comeback". At one point someone has to give him a chance. Remember when Joe Gibbs was hired by the Redskins, people were going who the hell is this guy?

I really don't get why Jim Harbaugh is getting so much attention. 7 mil per year??? lol. Only in the NFL does silly stuff like this happen. Like the guy has a magic wan or something. He's done a GREAT job at Stanford but the NFL IS NOT the Pac Ten. And regarding his brother, just cause John does a good job has nothing to do with Jim. Having a solid owner and a top front office sure helps John's cause. Not saying Jim's going fail but he's got no track record in the NFL as a head coach or even as a coordinator.

SFREDSKIN · 01-06-2011, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I really don't get why Jim Harbaugh is getting so much attention. 7 mil per year??? lol. Only in the NFL does silly stuff like this happen. Like the guy has a magic wan or something. He's done a GREAT job at Stanford but the NFL IS NOT the Pac Ten. And regarding his brother, just cause John does a good job has nothing to do with Jim. Having a solid owner and a top front office sure helps John's cause. Not saying Jim's going fail but he's got no track record in the NFL as a head coach or even as a coordinator.

We shall see, especially if he goes to Miami with Jeff Ireland.

SBXVII · 01-06-2011, 01:14 PM

[QUOTE=mooby;775641]Hey, I'm not arguing that it helps them be a better coach, I'm just saying teams look at that as a positive. I'm not a fan of hiring college coaches at all just because of the Spurrier ordeal. Hoo you should know by now that sometimes logic doesn't always work in the NFL. Spurrier never should've been hired in the first place but that didn't stop Snyder. Same thing with all the other retread college coaches, Bobby Petrino never should've left college football.

EDIT: And could've mentioned this before but he runs a pro style offense at Stanford. If you think that doesn't factor into it as well you'd be wrong.[/QUOTE]

Which is what I said about 2 pages ago. It's one thing to look at a college coach and express oppinions about how he will make it at the Pro level when he doesn't run a pro system. But Harbaugh runs a pro system so I doubt that will be an issue. Where I think his problems will present itself is who he brings in to his coaching staff.

Lotus · 01-06-2011, 01:18 PM

Garrett stays with Bovine Boys

AP source: Cowboys pick Jason Garrett as new coach - NFL - Yahoo! Sports

SFREDSKIN · 01-06-2011, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SBXVII

Where I think his problems will present itself is who he brings in to his coaching staff.

Check out his current staff at Stanford some names will sound familiar.

Stanford football coaching staff is coming together - San Francisco Stanford Cardinal Football | Examiner.com

DM72 · 01-06-2011, 01:54 PM

I wonder why the owner of the Dolphins isn't catching any flack for going after a new coax& even when you already have a coach in place. Just imagine if Dan Snyder did that?

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01-06-2011, 11:28 AM	#153
hooskins Most Interesting Man in the World Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chantilly, VA Age: 37 Posts: 8,606	Re: NFL Coaching Rumors and Moves Look I am not saying he won't be a good coach in the pros. I am saying just based on his college success, NFL experience as a player and his kin doesn't translate into that kind of salary. Don't say the free market has spoken. The NFL is quite the opposite of a purely private entity. It is also hyper inflated by a certain media network. I was listening to Mike and Mike this morning, and he was mentioning exactly what I was thinking about last night. The salary is a flaw in the system and needs to be regulated, just like the rookie salary. When you create a regulated league which is given monopolistic rights, it needs to be kept in check constantly. __________________ Vacancy

01-06-2011, 11:43 AM	#154
SFREDSKIN Living Legend Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 15,164	Re: NFL Coaching Rumors and Moves The reason the Dolphins are paying that much is because they really want him and don't want him going elsewhere. Jim Harbaugh is the real deal, trust me. His brother John was a special teams coach at Philly for years and look how that turned out? Jim has 15 years experience as player and 2 as a QB coach in the NFL, he has a passion,fire and is very competitive, remember him as "captain comeback". At one point someone has to give him a chance. Remember when Joe Gibbs was hired by the Redskins, people were going who the hell is this guy? __________________ Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs. Art Monk- Art was like an OL playing WR, doing the dirty work and not getting the glory. Darrell Green- Best DB ever. Purveyor of fine Filth

01-06-2011, 12:09 PM	#159
Chico23231 Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 34,800	Re: NFL Coaching Rumors and Moves I think Harbaugh will be an exception to the rule, but its a super gamble to take a college coach and then on top to give him a ton of money. Listening to Chris Landry the other day, he was saying the best coaches were first seasoned cordinators. To give a college coach over 5 mil per season in his first NFL HC job is absurd __________________ My pronouns: King/Your ruler He Gets Us

01-06-2011, 01:14 PM	#162
SBXVII Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 7,766	Re: NFL Coaching Rumors and Moves [QUOTE=mooby;775641]Hey, I'm not arguing that it helps them be a better coach, I'm just saying teams look at that as a positive. I'm not a fan of hiring college coaches at all just because of the Spurrier ordeal. Hoo you should know by now that sometimes logic doesn't always work in the NFL. Spurrier never should've been hired in the first place but that didn't stop Snyder. Same thing with all the other retread college coaches, Bobby Petrino never should've left college football. EDIT: And could've mentioned this before but he runs a pro style offense at Stanford. If you think that doesn't factor into it as well you'd be wrong.[/QUOTE] Which is what I said about 2 pages ago. It's one thing to look at a college coach and express oppinions about how he will make it at the Pro level when he doesn't run a pro system. But Harbaugh runs a pro system so I doubt that will be an issue. Where I think his problems will present itself is who he brings in to his coaching staff.

01-06-2011, 01:18 PM	#163
Lotus Fire Bruce NOW Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 11,434	Re: NFL Coaching Rumors and Moves Garrett stays with Bovine Boys AP source: Cowboys pick Jason Garrett as new coach - NFL - Yahoo! Sports __________________ Bruce Allen when in charge alone: 4-12 (.250) Bruce Allen's overall Redskins record : 28-52 (.350) Vinny Cerrato's record when in charge alone: 52-65 (.444) Vinny's overall Redskins record: 62-82 (.430) We won more with Vinny

01-06-2011, 01:54 PM	#165
DM72 Special Teams Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 146	Re: NFL Coaching Rumors and Moves I wonder why the owner of the Dolphins isn't catching any flack for going after a new coax& even when you already have a coach in place. Just imagine if Dan Snyder did that?

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