Was Shanahan Wrong Deactivating Haynesworth vs. Indy

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

Amen.
Just looked it up....we gave up 171 yards rushing on 28 carries for an average of 6.1 yards a carry. To one of the worst rushing teams in the league. How long is going to take Hasslett to figure it out?
We needed Haynesworth in this game.

Thank you!! That's been going on all season long, that didn't happen during the 4-3 D.

[MTK]

Trouble is we've given up big yards with AH in there too.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Trouble is we've given up big yards with AH in there too.

You mean for the 5 or 6 plays a game he is in?
AH is not in the game enough to make a difference. It would be diffrent if he were in just over half the snaps and he did not make a difference, but he is in maybe 1/4 of the snaps?

[Chico23231]

I think the bigger loss this week was not having Rocky in there as opposed to AH. I think both would have helped the run D. Giving up the passing yards didnt bother me, but Haslett approach to the running game was freakin piss poor. No excuse for giving a banged up, ok-not-great RB in Addai all those yards. Im just sick of our D Line in general...Kemo and Gholston are depth not starters in this league.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I think the bigger loss this week was not having Rocky in there as opposed to AH. I think both would have helped the run D. Giving up the passing yards didnt bother me, but Haslett approach to the running game was freakin piss poor. No excuse for giving a banged up, ok-not-great RB in Addai all those yards. Im just sick of our D Line in general...Kemo and Gholston are depth not starters in this league.

I was just about to say the same thing. Kemo, Gholston, V. Holiday and Jarmon should not be getting more snaps than AH. That is just piss poor coaching and player personnel management. That falls on Hasslett and Shanny.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

You mean for the 5 or 6 plays a game he is in?
AH is not in the game enough to make a difference. It would be diffrent if he were in just over half the snaps and he did not make a difference, but he is in maybe 1/4 of the snaps?

He's played for more than just 5-6 snaps a game, c'mon now.

He was in there a lot against Philly, and they still ran effectively.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

He's played for more than just 5-6 snaps a game, c'mon now.

He was in there a lot against Philly, and they still ran effectively.

I was kidding guy...c'mon. Just trying to make a point.
Is he in over half the snaps? No. Our best DL is on the bench and while we are one of the weakest teams against the run.

[SCRedskinsFan]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

Nothing personal but that is pure speculation. The bottom line is that we have no idea what would have happened because our coaches decided to sit our most talented player.

Either way, our defensive gameplan didn't work and NO ONE can dispute that.

Just started reading this thread, and couldn't take it any more at this point. I don't know what you're on Pocket, I hope it's just too much caffeine.

You've seen AH in action this year. At the speed of Indy's offense, he would have been stepping on his tongue after about two plays, and sucking oxygen on the sidelines the rest of the way. No way would he have made a difference in this game...

And the defensive game plan worked well enough to give the Skins a chance to tie or win at the end of the game against last season's Super Bowl team. Tough to ask more than that in this game.

You continually say that "you like Shanahan" while your diatribe says the opposite. About time to get real.

[over the mountain]

yeah, we hang close to indy in a game we had no business being in, sit at 3-3 and people are bitching cuz we lost to the colts in OT.

im just happy weve had real exciting action packed games this year. i guess if i was thinking superbowl, this year we have a chance nonsense id be panty bunched too

[BDBohnzie]

Haynesworth doesn't make or break this game. It's amusing to throw out there DPOY and best talented player on the team, when the guy's had 1.5 great seasons (26 starts over 2 years from 07-08) and hasn't been worth the Charmin he wipes his butt with since coming to DC.

It is what it is. Would he have made a difference? Probably not, considering how fast paced the Colts offense is. He would have been sucking wind and taking plays off in order to catch up. We'll never know.

What did make a difference was the amount of missed opportunities and mistakes both sides of the ball had. Dropped INTs, missed assignments, lack of pressure, abandoning the run, ill-advised throws. These are things that this team needs to work on. Not whether one player plays or not.

[MTK]

We went to OT? Damn did I go to bed too early??

Back on AH, the thought of him sucking major wind without being able to sub out would have been kinda funny actually. Something tells me he would have just did his typical stop, drop, and roll routine to get out of the game.

[CRedskinsRule]

Remember the switch to 3-4 was in part driven by a desire to get turnovers. When 4 INT's fall to the ground, the scheme is working, the stickum isn't! Stop those four drives, and maybe AH makes a difference on the others, but not enough to sacrifice the principle of Divas need not apply.

[BDBohnzie]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

We went to OT? Damn did I go to bed too early??

I wish...I would have had one more Sam Adams Oktoberfest draft at BWW had it gone to OT $4.50 for 22 oz drafts was a nice bonus.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

We went to OT? Damn did I go to bed too early??

Back on AH, the thought of him sucking major wind without being able to sub out would have been kinda funny actually. Something tells me he would have just did his typical stop, drop, and roll routine to get out of the game.

.........you know pocketts is going to coma after you for this!

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

I was just about to say the same thing. Kemo, Gholston, V. Holiday and Jarmon should not be getting more snaps than AH. That is just piss poor coaching and player personnel management. That falls on Hasslett and Shanny.

Jarmon was on roller skates all night long. Never thought I'd say it but this defense really needs AH in there.