Fences to Mend?

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by Beneil (diehard since 87)

Lame. "MF" is all you got? That is so lame.

Oh, and why do people act like Albert has a plethora of complaining quotes when all i can find is one statement that he wasn't used to his fullest potential and that he said that Orakpo wasn't either. yall act like he was crying like T.O. does or showing up at press conferences screaming "This team is dumb! I hate everyone! Gimme money! Go Cowboys!"

Oh, and if you weren't paying attention, MOST of the overpaid players have already been dropped. Albert happens to be the highest paid.

What are you his agent? You can't argue 4-12. That's all there is to it. No, actually I haven't been paying attention. I've been fornicating and trying to forget the misery of last season.

[Beneil (diehard since 87)]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

What are you his agent? You can't argue 4-12. That's all there is to it. No, actually I haven't been paying attention. I've been fornicating and trying to forget the misery of last season.

If you rate players solely by wins and losses, forgetting that it's a team effort, then Barry Sanders was a crappy runningback that could make highlight reels but couldn't win games, Dan Marino was a choke artist that couldn't win the big one, i can go on, but it's obviously pointless with you. 4-12 means NOTHING if you are looking at just one player. I guess you think Orakpo was a bust huh? Sure he made the pro-bowl, but 4-12 means he was obviously crap.

Look, you can't lump the win-loss total as a QB statistic. It's false advertising. Thinking like that gives the wrong people credit for a win. Who won those patiot superbowls? Vinetari or Brady? How many did they win without him? Remember all those fumbles Thurman Thomas had against the Giants? Then they blamed the loss on a Scott Norwood missed fieldgoal!? Well, it was the final straw, but not all his fault, just like our 4-12 season. If you honselty thing the 4 were from the team and the 12 was from Jason Campbell, then there's no point even reading your responses anymore.

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by Beneil (diehard since 87)

If you rate players solely by wins and losses, forgetting that it's a team effort, then Barry Sanders was a crappy runningback that could make highlight reels but couldn't win games, Dan Marino was a choke artist that couldn't win the big one, i can go on, but it's obviously pointless with you. 4-12 means NOTHING if you are looking at just one player. I guess you think Orakpo was a bust huh? Sure he made the pro-bowl, but 4-12 means he was obviously crap.

Look, you can't lump the win-loss total as a QB statistic. It's false advertising. Thinking like that gives the wrong people credit for a win. Who won those patiot superbowls? Vinetari or Brady? How many did they win without him? Remember all those fumbles Thurman Thomas had against the Giants? Then they blamed the loss on a Scott Norwood missed fieldgoal!? Well, it was the final straw, but not all his fault, just like our 4-12 season. If you honselty thing the 4 were from the team and the 12 was from Jason Campbell, then there's no point even reading your responses anymore.

Hmm. Every other play Fat Al was on his back. I laughed my ass off because I knew that was Danny's money blowing up in the air, like a humback. And Landry, you actually think that guy is worth something? You must like grilled cheese sandwiches.

[internetcareer]

Originally Posted by Beneil (diehard since 87)

If you rate players solely by wins and losses, forgetting that it's a team effort, then Barry Sanders was a crappy runningback that could make highlight reels but couldn't win games, Dan Marino was a choke artist that couldn't win the big one, i can go on, but it's obviously pointless with you. 4-12 means NOTHING if you are looking at just one player. I guess you think Orakpo was a bust huh? Sure he made the pro-bowl, but 4-12 means he was obviously crap.

Look, you can't lump the win-loss total as a QB statistic. It's false advertising. Thinking like that gives the wrong people credit for a win. Who won those patiot superbowls? Vinetari or Brady? How many did they win without him? Remember all those fumbles Thurman Thomas had against the Giants? Then they blamed the loss on a Scott Norwood missed fieldgoal!? Well, it was the final straw, but not all his fault, just like our 4-12 season. If you honselty thing the 4 were from the team and the 12 was from Jason Campbell, then there's no point even reading your responses anymore.

Good post..and you are obviously intelligent. Which doesn't explain why you would write a slanted article which makes it seem like Jason Campbell is just waiting for a good team to show up. Fact is Jason WAS INDEED a large part of those 12 losses. A missed pass here...not moving up in the pocket in the first Giants game and allow Umehyoura to get around Samuels 15 yards behind the line of scrimmage to know the ball out and run it back for a TD when a simple move up in the pocket would have meant a completed pass for the Skins instead of a td for the Giants. Jason is not a great QB and he will be a backup for the rest of his life, regardless if somebody starts him for a game or 2.

[IrMitchell]

Originally Posted by internetcareer

Good post..and you are obviously intelligent. Which doesn't explain why you would write a slanted article which makes it seem like Jason Campbell is just waiting for a good team to show up. Fact is Jason WAS INDEED a large part of those 12 losses. A missed pass here...not moving up in the pocket in the first Giants game and allow Umehyoura to get around Samuels 15 yards behind the line of scrimmage to know the ball out and run it back for a TD when a simple move up in the pocket would have meant a completed pass for the Skins instead of a td for the Giants. Jason is not a great QB and he will be a backup for the rest of his life, regardless if somebody starts him for a game or 2.

Well said. Sometimes it blows my mind when people defend Jason Campbell to the extent that we should have started him/kept draft picks over having THE DONOVAN MCNABB??

Do you guys not remember Jason Campbell throughout the season? He was horrible! He'd complete his passes when it didn't matter and I'd flick the channel when it was 3rd and 10, the chances of him making that were about as likely as me starting for the Colts next season. He has much more lowlights than highs, and really just couldn't pull the trigger at any point this season or the last. It's incorrect to factor in us keeping him because he still has "potential".. If he's going to go become a good QB on another team, then go do that right now and thanks for the very few games that you made us all happy about Jason!

[Beneil (diehard since 87)]

Originally Posted by internetcareer

Good post..and you are obviously intelligent. Which doesn't explain why you would write a slanted article which makes it seem like Jason Campbell is just waiting for a good team to show up. Fact is Jason WAS INDEED a large part of those 12 losses. A missed pass here...not moving up in the pocket in the first Giants game and allow Umehyoura to get around Samuels 15 yards behind the line of scrimmage to know the ball out and run it back for a TD when a simple move up in the pocket would have meant a completed pass for the Skins instead of a td for the Giants. Jason is not a great QB and he will be a backup for the rest of his life, regardless if somebody starts him for a game or 2.

Why thank you for the compliment. Warms my heart.

Look, JC isn't my favorite QB of all time, but i made the same argument for Brad Johnson when HE left and did great things. Regardless of the player you wish to blame, there are usually a LOT of big mistakes that make a team lose. Of COURSE JC had a part in our 4-12 season, but to use it as a QB statistic is still inacurate jsut like giving Brady all the credit for the superbowls won on Vinetari's foot.

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Watch this clip and think... If Devon Thomas played like this all season, how many wins would we have? If we let Laron be more like Sean Taylor and had a more Ryan clark like person behind him, maybe he would have more GOOD highlights and fewer Roger's like coverage mistakes. If we had a better man that whoever that Moore chump is, then maybe the backfield would be as solid as the d-line and backers that made the saints running attack look like crap and render Reggie Bush useless. You see JC making quick reads and gettign the ball out, only THIS time Thomas is CATCHING them instead of flailing his arms and then falling. You may even think, Hmm... did our kicker just miss the wimpiest of chip shots?

Landry aint the best, but he's better than the others on the squad. We need another Safety, but to drop him will only make us need two. We haev enough needs than to just add another.

Oh, and stop exaggerating how many plays Albert misses and stop saying he's always on his back. Don't pretend Carter went from crap to sack-master on his own. Don't pretend that orakpo got his 11 alone either. Haynesworth was right about our defense and he's right about how he's used. You call it a complaint and pretend he's done it a lot. I call it one time of speaking your mind being turned into 'something to talk about'.

Oh... and don't forget that Sellers fumble in the end that ended what would/could/should've been Jason's big comeback win.

[Dirtbag59]

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[jdlea]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

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If Bushrod and a 2 happens, I'll be happy as both a Saints and a Skins fan. I don't hate Haynesworth like a lot of others on this board, but if he can be traded and it will make the team better, then I have no problem saying good bye. Especially not now that the Skins switched to a defense that doesn't really suit his talents.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

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Interesting. Pretty close to what I've heard. Except I've never heard Haynesworth mentioned as the player that would go from here.

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Interesting. Pretty close to what I've heard. Except I've never heard Haynesworth mentioned as the player that would go from here.

Well, now I'm really interested. I'd like to see either of these guys end up in Washington, regardless of what happens with Okung. I also don't think it would be the end of the world if Bulaga or Williams were the pick, but I'd take Bushrod and a 2, put him at RT and start the rookie at LT.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

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If we traded Phat Albert for a quality Left Tackle I would be absolutely thrilled. And if a draft pick got thrown in too...wow this offseason just gets better and better

[Gtothearry]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

If we traded Phat Albert for a quality Left Tackle I would be absolutely thrilled. And if a draft pick got thrown in too...wow this offseason just gets better and better

I'd be extremely happy with that. Get Mccoy or Suh with the 4th pick to replace Albert and quality left tackle plus a 2nd round pick! I'd love that.

Good discussion here: Jammal Brown for Albert Haynesworth???? - SaintsReport Community Forums

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

I've been fornicating and trying to forget the misery of last season.

You hanging out with Tiger Woods and Jesse James?

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

You hanging out with Tiger Woods and Jesse James?

Tiger I can understand but Jesse? What's the deal? Sandra Bullock is a fine piece of ass.

Tiger should've never gotten married. He should've taken that Trojan sponsorship too. But that's for another thread.