McNabb a REDSKIN!

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

And Campbell got a bunch of completions from screens and garbage time. More important to look at more detailed stats:

QB Rate - McNabb = 92.9, JC = 86.4
TD% (TDs / Pass Att) - McNabb = 5.0, JC = 3.9
INT % (INT / Pass Att) - McNabb = 2.3, JC = 3.0
Adjusted Net Yds per ATT (complicated) - McNabb = 6.9, JC = 5.6

McNabb - 5 Time Pro Bowler, JC.....

McNabb got just as many of his completions from dumpoffs as Campbell did. Fact: McNabb had 15 passes of 20+ yards and Campbell had 14. Calling that an upgrade is stretching: McNabb is simply less accurate.

He just got even more yards from down the field plays, which won't translate for all of the obvious reasons.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

McNabb got just as many of his completions from dumpoffs as Campbell did. Fact: McNabb had 15 passes of 20+ yards and Campbell had 14. Calling that an upgrade is stretching: McNabb is simply less accurate.

He just got even more yards from down the field plays, which won't translate for all of the obvious reasons.

If the stats I quoted, along with McNabb's Pro Bowls and playoff success aren't enough for you to admit he's a huge upgrade over Campbell then there's nothing that will change your mind.

I think you've gone way overboard on supporting JC, but to seriously believe McNabb isn't a huge upgrade.....c'mon. You've got to look at more than just completion %.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

I think you've gone way overboard on supporting Colt McCoy, but to seriously believe McNabb isn't a huge upgrade.....c'mon. You've got to look at more than just completion %.

There fixed it for you. Please continue.

Just found this on Redskins.com:

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

There fixed it for you. Please continue.

Just found this on Redskins.com:

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

There fixed it for you. Please continue.

Just found this on Redskins.com:

oh my haha

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

If the stats I quoted, along with McNabb's Pro Bowls and playoff success aren't enough for you to admit he's a huge upgrade over Campbell then there's nothing that will change your mind.

I think you've gone way overboard on supporting JC, but to seriously believe McNabb isn't a huge upgrade.....c'mon. You've got to look at more than just completion %.

I just hope people are not clinging to years past and are actually looking at what he can provide now.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I just hope people are not clinging to years past and are actually looking at what he can provide now.

He won 11 games last year with a so so defense.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

He won 11 games last year with a so so defense.

The D-line didn't block for him last year. Anybody else not to happy about this trade? I was really hoping to address O-line this offseason and why are they still bringing Bradford in for a look? Is this an option they're considering in the draft?

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

The D-line didn't block for him last year. Anybody else not to happy about this trade? I was really hoping to address O-line this offseason and why are they still bringing Bradford in for a look? Is this an option they're considering in the draft?

Well, Mr. Zorn's version of the WCO always had every play be a "drop back and throw" play. Roll outs and bootlegs were nonexistent. WILL NOT BE THE CASE WITH SHANNY.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

He won 11 games last year with a so so defense.

and.....yet his numbers were not that much greater then Campbells. Hmmm. He had a much better OL, much better WR's, much better HC, much better scheme, and yet people want to argue that McNabb is far better a QB now over JC. JC's numbers were not that much different with a much worse OL, mediocre WR's, bad HC, and bad scheme.

I'll agree with you if you look at all of McNabbs stats from his start time in the NFL to now he is much better then JC. But please be realistic and look at last yrs stats or atleast the last couple of yrs and judge both together. McNabb has been falling off from his day of grandure. He is not the god people want to make him out to be.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

and.....yet his numbers were not that much greater then Campbells. Hmmm. He had a much better OL, much better WR's, much better HC, much better scheme, and yet people want to argue that McNabb is far better a QB now over JC. JC's numbers were not that much different with a much worse OL, mediocre WR's, bad HC, and bad scheme.

I'll agree with you if you look at all of McNabbs stats from his start time in the NFL to now he is much better then JC. But please be realistic and look at last yrs stats or atleast the last couple of yrs and judge both together. McNabb has been falling off from his day of grandure. He is not the god people want to make him out to be.

Fat Andy's one-dimensional playcalling is suspect at best, although better than Zorn's.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

McNabb got just as many of his completions from dumpoffs as Campbell did. Fact: McNabb had 15 passes of 20+ yards and Campbell had 14. Calling that an upgrade is stretching: McNabb is simply less accurate.

He just got even more yards from down the field plays, which won't translate for all of the obvious reasons.

those obvious reasons = our receivers won't get open down the field?

maybe with a less vanilla offense they will

I mean when DT says something like Shanahan was shocked that we were running shit that we were.. gives me a lil hope

at least that gives you a reason to say that it wasn't McNabb it was Shanahan if Donovan does well