Offer made on Chad (1st rd '08, conditional 3rd rd '09)

[KB24]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

since 2000, what perennial top-5 in his position pro-bowler have the skins acquired?

portis is the only one i think you can put in that category and thats a bit of a stretch. the fact that we gave big time money to could be good players in lloyd n arch (admitted mistakes) shouldnt keep us from not giving big time money for a big time player. im just confused on what "big stars" weve acquired since 2000 that your referring to. its not the money the skins were spending that was our problem but the overpaying for mediocre talent that we got in return imo.

sorry for the double post.

LaVar Arrington, Bruce Smith, Mark Carrier, Jeff George (GAG!), Deion Sanders (DOUBLE-GAG!), Laveranus Coles, Santana Moss, Joe Morton and Brandon Lloyd are the ones who come to my mind. Snyder even wanted Ted Ginn, Jr., until Gregg Williams sold him on LaRon Landry.

Originally Posted by SBXVII

KB24I respect what your saying. I really do. All I'm trying to point out as well as several others is that we would only lose one pick this yr. #21. Then we would have 8-9 other picks to find OL,DE,DL,CB,S,WR depth. All we are saying is it's not the end of the world. Depending on how CJ does this yr yes it could turn out to be a 1st next yr. but I'm betting for them to get the 1st round pick we would have to go pretty far in the playoffs. Probably why Cincy said no go.

It's just frustrating to hear people say CJ is not worth that much when he was like the #3 WR of all last yr and in the top 10 for how many yrs? He's also a pro bowl player...you don't get there by being a problem or having good looks or good character. It's all about his play. It's also disheartening to hear about his character issues. Maybe he did punch a coach maybe he didn't. I was not there. Something happened. On the Riggo show yesterday they spoke with a Cincy sports reporter and he said he has not gotten a clear answer on that either but something did happen. If nothing else pushing and shoving, but he said it appearently was no big deal to the team. Not worthy of kicking him off a team, however he has heard nothing but fans shocked that Cincy would not take the deal. They would get another 1st rounder and knowing CJ would put up the numbers they might get the 1st next also.

I guess I'm just hesitant to make another trade like this for a "superstar" when that strategy in the past hasn't gotten us to the next level. And I just wonder whether it's smart to sink everything as much as we are trying to into him when he may not be able to get us to that level by himself. That's where I'm coming from with all this.