The Portis move in hindsight

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

I've said this before about this same subject... The Washington Redskins are 2-6 when Ladell Betts starts. What is your proof or even logic for that comment?

Sorry but your point is not very good. How are you going to blame Betts when TB tramples our defense?

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Sorry but your point is not very good. How are you going to blame Betts when TB tramples our defense?

My point isn't very good? You said that the Redskins can win with Betts, and yet, history has show that the Redskins lose 75% of the time when Betts starts. How is my point not very good?

And I blame Betts for the Tampa game for the fumble he gave away on a potential scoring drive.

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Sorry but your point is not very good. How are you going to blame Betts when TB tramples our defense?

Because Betts fumbled that game away

[MTK]

Originally Posted by jdlea

Because Betts fumbled that game away

Are you seriously pinning that loss all on Betts?

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Are you seriously pinning that loss all on Betts?

No, but without that fumble they have a much better shot at winning. They were working their way to a drive that could have gotten them right back in it, however, the fumble killed that. The D should've played better, but that hurts...a WHOLE LOT. About as much as when Stephen Davis fumbled against the Boys a few years back...

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by jdlea

Because Betts fumbled that game away

I'm not going to insult your football intelligence. But your comment makes no sense. One turnover does not win or loose a game. You should know that. What if Brandon Lloyd catches the damn ball that JC put right in his hands on the first play of the game? What if, what if, what if.........

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I'm not going to insult your football intelligence. But your comment makes no sense. One turnover does not win or loose a game. You should know that. What if Brandon Lloyd catches the damn ball that JC put right in his hands on the first play of the game? What if, what if, what if.........

I'm not saying that play alone cost them the football game. However, in fumbling, he effectively ended the Skins chances of coming back. The D could've stepped up and made the stop, but they didn't, partly because the Bucs took over at like the 50. That fumble was huge and pretty much put it away for the Bucs. It's a situation where the D should've played better, yes. However, that fumble made a huge difference in the football game. That's a fumble that I've seen Clinton replicate once...a Giants game 2 years ago where he played poorly. That's the only time I can say that a Clinton fumble helped cost the Skins game. Now, as we've stated ad nauseum, Betts doesn't get many chances, but he did then and he lost the fumble. That's kind of a big deal to me.

That doesn't make him a bad back. It doesn't even mean he's not starting caliber. It was a big fumble, though. It did hurt their chances of winning the football game, that's what I'm saying. It was a huge deal and without it they might have won. Like I said, the D was suspect and should've held up, but they hadn't all year to that point. They did what I basically expected. Folded. I didn't expect it from Ladell.