Skins Giants postgame

[Daseal]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

Well, after last night, anybody who pins this on RGIII is a moron. After last night, I don't ever want to hear anything else out of Pierre Garcon and especially Santana Moss about Robert Griffin III. How much leadership did Moss show last night getting an unsportsmanlike conduct foul? How much leadership did Garcon show dropping passes and fumbling that last pass into the hands of the DB? Or kicking the ball in the stands? Griffin did what he could to make plays. How can he make plays when Chester and Polumbus consistently refuses to block? How do you let someone like Justin Tuck have a free shot to the quarterback? Tuck had 2 1/2 sacks all year before last night. He had 4 sacks in last night's game alone. Don't talk to me about Griffin's inability to read defenses and refusal to go through his progressions. Take a few snaps behind THAT offensive line and tell me how well you're able to go through your reads.

Secondly, I keep hearing people say that Jordan Reed is glass. You know, Art Monk had some injury issues early on in his career. Wound up having a hall of fame career. Reed is going to be something special in this league. He got a freakin' concussion. It's not like he stayed out of the game because his pinky hurts. You deal away Reed and you're no better than Vinny Cerrato. In fact, you're worse. So shut up about Jordan Reed. Seeing Fred Davis consistently drop easy catches should show you why he was deactivated several weeks ago. Davis is trash. Plain and simple. He needs to go, along with Chris Chester and especially Tyler Polumbus. Santana Moss is still capable of making plays, but for every good play he makes, he cancels it out with stupid mistakes or drops. So, sorry Moss, I loved ya a few years ago, but you need to go as well. And Aldrick Robinson. So much speed and elusiveness, but all for nothing if you can't catch the freakin' football.

And finally, the #1 rushing attack in the league, and where did Alfred Morris go in the second half? This has been a constant gripe of mine all season long. Alfred Morris is a play maker. And you go away from him in the second half? WTF Kyle Shanahan? Yes, maybe Roy Helu is faster and more appropriate for the no huddle offense, but in the end, Morris is one of the best rushers in the league. YOU HAVE TO PUT YOUR BEST PLAYERS ON THE FIELD! It's not like the 'skins were ever behind by a lot of points. Kyle Shanahan has done this so many times during the season. Morris catches steam the longer the game goes on. Kind of like how John Riggins was back in the glory days. You wear the defense down with a heavy dose of Alfred Morris - THAT is when you crank up the passing. Kyle Shanahan always seems to go away too early from the running game. I just don't understand that all.

I figure most of us are probably in agreement with the defense. The secondary is trash. That's nothing new. It needs to be badly upgraded. I know there was some hate being thrown toward Orakpo this year, but I think it's a mistake to cut him loose. I think you need to keep him around. Adding some depth to that defensive line will improve that front play - and we'll see more of what we expect from Rak and Kerrigan. I don't like Jim Haslett as well and will be very disappointed if he is retained after this season, but I do wonder if Haslett is given an improved secondary and depth on that defensive line, if he would fair better? I fear, though, there are so many issues with that defense that one off season is not going to fix that.

And I don't even want to talk about special teams. They're horrible. 'nuff said.

I just want this freakin' season to hurry up and end. It's a nightmare to say the least.

Anyone who pins THIS loss on RG3 is crazy. He played a great game. However, you seem to be brushing with broad strokes. There are games that RG3 has played well and people failed him -- but there are games where he failed the team as well. He's going through the struggles of a young QB. What concerns me, is he seems to have lost the trust/respect of his WRs. Regardless of whoevers fault that is, if it is the case it's bad.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

He's always limping around Matt, cmon we say it every game, I like the guy and hope he's a great player but he's got to stay on the field.

Well, as I said in my diatribe posted in this thread, the great Art Monk had some injury issues earlier on in his career, and if any of you guys were around back then (as well as this forum) you all probably would have said the same thing about Monk. You expect Reed to play with a concussion?

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

Well, as I said in my diatribe posted in this thread, the great Art Monk had some injury issues earlier on in his career, and if any of you guys were around back then (as well as this forum) you all probably would have said the same thing about Monk. You expect Reed to play with a concussion?

No I don't but u know what I'm trying to say and unfortunately I was not able to see Monk play, I wish I did though

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I would target Jonathan Martin (i don't care what people say, he can play),

What? You realize he lost his job right? They traded for McKinnie because Martin sucked so bad. Notice this bullshit in Miami didn't go down until he lost his starting position. Besides, I highly doubt the players would want a guy like that in the locker room.

Some media reporter posted a tweet that a current NFL GM told him it would be much easier to bring in Incognito than Martin.


Hell no. Scratch that. Hell Fucking No to Martin on this team.

[skinsfaninok]

"If the NFL Draft were held today, the Rams would have the No. 2 overall pick courtesy of the Washington Redskins." Adam Schefter

[Daseal]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Let's set this straight, he missed 14 games last year, other than that he's been a rock in the lineup only missing one other start.

Brian Orakpo NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com

I was a bit off. Played 12 games last year and 2 the year before. More than I thought last year. As NC Skins said. I'd like to have him back, but I'm not paying him top 5 LB money. Probably not top 10.

Edit: Reading comprehension. I was 100% wrong. Sorry. I take back my previous statement.

[MTK]

Can we give Compton a look at RT these last few games? I've really had enough of Polumbus getting bulldozed.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Can we give Compton a look at RT these last few games? I've really had enough of Polumbus getting bulldozed.

You know Ive always thought that was part of our offensive scheme was for Polumbus to get crushed 24/7. You mean we can actually improve at that position?

[Chico23231]

Did yall hear last night from Collinsworth that the Skins were thinking of moving Kory L to center and letting McRibeous start at LG this season? But LeRibust came in 60 lbs overweight into camp!!??

[NC_Skins]

@AdamSchefter

If the NFL Draft were held today, the Rams would have the No. 2 overall pick courtesy of the Washington Redskins

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Did yall hear last night from Collinsworth that the Skins were thinking of moving Kory L to center and letting McRibeous start at LG this season? But LeRibust came in 60 lbs overweight into camp!!??

Yeah not sure how accurate that is.

[skinsfaninok]

I love Jack D

[Chico23231]

Yeah when I went to camp I saw LeRibshit not in pads just walking around. He was a fat bastard, by 60 lbs overweight, I dont know about that.

I thought I remember SS saying something about moving Kory L to center possibly.

Dont know, but that statement kinda caught me off guard by Collingsworth.

[skinsfaninok]

Cris was all about the skins last night, it surprised me how much he likes the team

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

"If the NFL Draft were held today, the Rams would have the No. 2 overall pick courtesy of the Washington Redskins." Adam Schefter

The way we are trending, that might be #1 overall. The silver lining - all of the later picks will be at the top of the round, but we must draft better in rounds 2-3 than the likes of Jarvis Jenkins and Josh LeRibeus.