Questions that might effect the DRAFT

[30gut]

I always get geeked about the draft. I've seen people clamoring for offensive lineman/defensive lineman and i would been in that group. But, knowing the Redskins anything can happen come draft time.

I wish we could know the Redskins evaluations of these players:

1) Chad Rinehart??-G/T-We used to hear good things about him during training camp.

Was his lack of playing time due to lack of ability or youth. It seems that Zorn isn't high on playing rookies and that Buges likes his veteran lineman.

Can Rinehart start and be effective at RG/RT

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2) Can Justin Geisinger start and be effective at a Guard spot and backup center and eventually challenge Casey?

3) Can Devin Clark play or was it just hype because he might have been forced to play?

4) Could Jansen be effective playing an interior line spot?

5) Will/ can Thomas return next year, would we even want him too?

Last part is just a gripe:
What is going on with the talent evaluation that we let a kid that i heard Buges liked: Andrew Crummey go to the Bengals when we needed offensive lineman right here?

-BTW Crummey played in more games then Geisinger, Rinehart, Clark combined

Anyway could these line-ups be effective next year?

Samuels, Kendal, Rabach, Geisinger, Rinehart

Samuels, Kendal, Rabach, Rinehart, Heyer

Samuels, Kendal, Rabach, Jansen, Rinehart

Samuels, Kendal, Rabach, Rinehart, Rookie + Rookie center in waiting

[MTK]

Assuming we let Kendall go I think Rinehart will end up at LG

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Assuming we let Kendall go I think Rinehart will end up at LG

I agree. I think that was our plan for him when we drafted him. Although he was a tackle in college I believe he played both and was more projected at guard than tackle if I remember right. Fortunately Kendall was pretty healthy all year so Rhinehart has had more time to work on his technique and assignments. It's kinda hard to get a read on these guys when they've hardly played.

[The Goat]

Anyway could these line-ups be effective next year?

Samuels, Kendal, Rabach, Geisinger, Rinehart

Samuels, Kendal, Rabach, Rinehart, Heyer

Samuels, Kendal, Rabach, Jansen, Rinehart

Samuels, Kendal, Rabach, Rinehart, Rookie + Rookie center in waiting

If we don't draft a stud RT at 13 or go get one in FA my guess is the o-line doesn't really improve over last year. On the interior i won't be surprised if Jansen beats someone out to be a starter. I think it's a wait and see on Thomas' neck injury and certainly Kendell is getting up there (however after Samuels I think Kendell is our best lineman at this point). Seems Rinehart will have to take giant strides to start over any of Buges beloved vets. Anyway, i'd bet Jansen is somewhere on the interior next year replacing either Kendell or Rabach or Thomas, while Rinehart could get in depending on injury/retirement scenarios.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Anyway could these line-ups be effective next year?

Samuels, Kendal, Rabach, Geisinger, Rinehart

Samuels, Kendal, Rabach, Rinehart, Heyer

Samuels, Kendal, Rabach, Jansen, Rinehart

Samuels, Kendal, Rabach, Rinehart, Rookie + Rookie center in waiting

If we don't draft a stud RT at 13 or go get one in FA my guess is the o-line doesn't really improve over last year. On the interior i won't be surprised if Jansen beats someone out to be a starter. I think it's a wait and see on Thomas' neck injury and certainly Kendell is getting up there (however after Samuels I think Kendell is our best lineman at this point). Seems Rinehart will have to take giant strides to start over any of Buges beloved vets. Anyway, i'd bet Jansen is somewhere on the interior next year replacing either Kendell or Rabach or Thomas, while Rinehart could get in depending on injury/retirement scenarios.

I wonder if the only thing holding Rinehart back from playing and possibly playing better then Thomas @ RG or Fabini @ RT was Bugel's loyalty to his veterans and Zorn's reluctance to play rookies.

Heyer beats out Jansen for the RT spot in training camp gets hurt and doesn't regain the spot after his injury despite the decline in Jansens play.

Thomas struggled throughout the season yet wasn't replaced until his injury.
Fabini has been a G/T in this league. I remember last year when Thomas and Jansen went down the combo of Fabini and Heyer was pretty good.

IMO the offensive line play was one of the Redskins weak spots, but i can't help but wonder if the solution to the problems were sitting on the bench.

I think the team would be better if we could trade down or draft Orakpo (i know wishful thinking) with the 13th pick instead of having to take a OT.

My line-up would be:

Samuels LT, Rinehart LG, Rabach (Jansen/Geisinger) C, Kendall RG, Heyer RT

A couple of guys mentioned Rinehart @ LG and i thought that would make sense, to have the pairing of veteran lineman next to a young lineman..

but on the other hand if we did take a OT w/ the 13th pick we should have a
much improved line:

Samuels LT, Rinehart LG, Rabach(Jansen/Geisinger) C, Kendall RG, Rookie RT

[RMSkins]

I would like to see our o-line lineup look like this:

LT Samuels LG Kendall C Rabach RG Thomas RT Rookie

Backups: Jansen, Rinehart, Clark, Geisinger.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by RMSkins

I would like to see our o-line lineup look like this:

LT Samuels LG Kendall C Rabach RG Thomas RT Rookie

Backups: Jansen, Rinehart, Clark, Rabach.

I like this with a few minor changes.

LT Samuels LG Kendall or Rinehart C Rookie RG Thomas RT Rookie or FA signing

[MeanEvilSkin]

I'm trying, but I can't find any reason to get excited about the Texas-Ohio State match-up. It's like these two teams are running in jell-o.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by MeanEvilSkin

I'm trying, but I can't find any reason to get excited about the Texas-Ohio State match-up. It's like these two teams are running in jell-o.

I wanted to see how Boone would do against Orakpo. Looked like he was doing alright the last I saw but I lost interest and forgot it was still on.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

I wanted to see how Boone would do against Orakpo. Looked like he was doing alright the last I saw but I lost interest and forgot it was still on.

I made a point to watch Orakpo. He did OK but it looked to my old eyes that he took some plays off and didn't pursue the way I expected. He certainly doesn't have the motor of Everette Brown who, IMO, is the better player.

I didn't know that Alex Boone was a top prospect until I read this thread this morning, but he definitely caught my eye during the game. I thought he played very well against Orakpo.

[Trample the Elderly]

After reading about the cap, (I must admit that I didn't know too much about it until this year) it's almost certain that most of these guys are going to be back next year as far as the O-line is concerned. If they trade up or trade down, quaility or quantity isn't a big issue with me as long as they see that it's a problem and try to address it with the draft and FA. We shouldn't neglect our defense either. Being able to do both of these things is near impossible in one off season. Next year we'll be posting about how we need a new running back after Clinton Portis collapses from exhaustion.
I like the idea of trading down and getting Robinson. I'm hoping we'll pick up Everrett Brown. I don't care if he's not built for our kind of offense. We'll have to wait and see. As long as they don't trade all of our picks for mercenaries and actually pick someone then I'll be happy.

[WaldSkins]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

After reading about the cap, (I must admit that I didn't know too much about it until this year) it's almost certain that most of these guys are going to be back next year as far as the O-line is concerned. If they trade up or trade down, quaility or quantity isn't a big issue with me as long as they see that it's a problem and try to address it with the draft and FA. We shouldn't neglect our defense either. Being able to do both of these things is near impossible in one off season. Next year we'll be posting about how we need a new running back after Clinton Portis collapses from exhaustion.
I like the idea of trading down and getting Robinson. I'm hoping we'll pick up Everrett Brown. I don't care if he's not built for our kind of offense. We'll have to wait and see. As long as they don't trade all of our picks for mercenaries and actually pick someone then I'll be happy.

Isn't he the DT from FSU?

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by WaldSkins

Isn't he the DT from FSU?

DE from FSU. Yeah.

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by WaldSkins

Isn't he the DT from FSU?

Yeah I screwed that up. I was told he was built for a 3-4 DEFFENSE and wouldn't work on ours.

[WaldSkins]

Id like to see Jansen inside to see what he can do.