Commanders 2025 Offseason Thread

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by WCommandersfan99

Bradyn Swinson was available for us in the 4th rd for an edge. 2nd team All-SEC, 8.5 sacks, 13 TFL last year. This was who I wanted in the 4th rd, so a talented edge was available. Peters went in a different direction.



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An edge who lasted till round 5 vs their top rated ST returner per AP(also a position of need). I will trust AP and DQ's evaluation and decision. If we were going to get an impact player at EDGE it would have been at 61 or before.

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[WCommandersfan99]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

An edge who lasted till round 5 vs their top rated ST returner per AP(also a position of need). I will trust AP and DQ's evaluation and decision. If we were going to get an impact player at EDGE it would have been at 61 or before.

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We all have to trust AP's decision and we will, but this is one of the few I disagreed with. We already got Deebo Samuel and Michael Gallup Jr. and he used a 3rd rounder on McCaffrey last year. Edge was far more of a need than wr. Defense wins championships not more wrs when you're already solid in this area.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by WCommandersfan99

We all have to trust AP's decision and we will, but this is one of the few I disagreed with. We already got Deebo Samuel and Michael Gallup Jr. and he used a 3rd rounder on McCaffrey last year. Edge was far more of a need than wr. Defense wins championships not more wrs when you're already solid in this area.

We know AP chooses highly athletic players so I looked up Swinson's RAS score, and maybe - for good or bad - it had something to do with them passing on it.



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[Darrell Green Fan]

Originally Posted by WCommandersfan99

We all have to trust AP's decision and we will, but this is one of the few I disagreed with. We already got Deebo Samuel and Michael Gallup Jr. and he used a 3rd rounder on McCaffrey last year. Edge was far more of a need than wr. Defense wins championships not more wrs when you're already solid in this area.

I loved the Deebo trade but he is signed for 1 season and we don't know if he will sign here again. He also comes with injury risk. Gallop came off his couch and is a solid depth piece but nothing more. McCaffery at this point has proven nothing.

I don't see any way this group could be considered solid before the draft. I'm also pretty thrilled that AP drafted the best player and did not reach to fill a more immediate need and you should be as well.

[Meks]

Just recall this back and forth. Lotta hot air for a player or two just may not make much impacts lol... will be funny to recall one day

I'm fine without drafting swinson at this spot. I trust AP just fine.

[That Guy]

getting on a pedestal for the 22nd rated edge guy is weird. no one knows how the future will unfold, but saying we're good at WR based on mccaffrey and sinnot showing absolutely nothing last year is really confusing. Sure they could be better this year, or not.

would a 4th round rookie that's a liability against the run and not the most athletic REALLY be pegged as a starter? You're all for BPA except when the GM actually goes BPA. The team is trying to win NOW. Lane helps them NOW.

Random guy on internet says he could be good. COULD. If he matched your ad pitch, he wouldn't have made it to the 4th round. Also, how was the defense taken away from in the draft? +starting CB, +safety/LB hybrid depth = making the defense worse?? I don't follow.

[AnonEmouse]

TBF on Sinnott and McCaffrey, staff have said they were very happy with Sinnott but Ertz surprised them with how much he could still do so dominated playing time, and film shows McCaffrey getting open a lot but it looks like Daniels didn't see/trust him. That can be worked on and nobody on staff etc. are saying he's not capable (not that they would at this stage though).

But totally agree, taking BPA over need there makes total sense, AP has made good picks so far and as plenty have said, every chance a quality Edge FA is going to be available between now and the season. No reason not to trust the process.

[WCommandersfan99]

I'm not going to go on about the 4th rd selection anymore. Clearly I would have preferred defense as I feel at is was not addressed enough so far this offseason. Eagles easily had the best team defense last year by a wide margin in their Super Bowl season. Fans can talk about Hurts, Barkley, and Brown all day but their defense was dominant. I don't feel ours is good enough for 2025 for the ultimate goal. Hope I'm wrong.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by WCommandersfan99

I'm not going to go on about the 4th rd selection anymore. Clearly I would have preferred defense as I feel at is was not addressed enough so far this offseason. Eagles easily had the best team defense last year by a wide margin in their Super Bowl season. Fans can talk about Hurts, Barkley, and Brown all day but their defense was dominant. I don't feel ours is good enough for 2025 for the ultimate goal. Hope I'm wrong.

totally agree

i am actual setting the expectation that we are not going to go as far next year

i think its a great team and it is building

all those close games at the end of the year ; if they have gone a different
way our expectations for this year be a bit different

i hope i am wrong too!

[AnonEmouse]

I can't help feeling there's a misconception that some of us are satisfied with where we are at right now. Not the case for me. I'm disappointed we didn't address Edge. But I'm not disappointed with the decisions made. When you look across the roster, I don't think there is a position that is worse today than it was at the end of the season. No we haven't improved everywhere, but we have improved overall. We need to make more moves in FA before the season starts, and then see how things shake out early. But one factor to consider is that the improvements on O, particularly the OL, will help the D out too.

[sdskinsfan2001]

There are still some decent veteran edge players out there we can sign. I'm betting we bring in one of them soon.

[Chico23231]

I think it interesting to see Peters strategy of the 1 year contract.

Last year as well as this year. Can we have the same success again with this strategy?

QB1 hides a lot, but Ertz and Wagner performances were vital. This year a couple guys from New England, Wil Harris safety and now Gay as the kicker all will be asked to play big roles on 1 year deals.

Deebo, Lattimore are essentially on 1 year deals as well…they will be asked to lead both units.

This allows a great deal of flexibility if things go south, to simply re up and move on….but in terms of team building, is it great long term? Remains to be seen. But you have to like the short term results


*correction…wil Harris is 2 years, but a big out after this year

[CRedskinsRule]

JD5's performance in my mind absolutely plays a part in how AP is building this team. I believe he is building an offense to rival the greatest offenses of all time, knowing if the game is on the line we are putting the ball in the offense's (JD5's) hand. In doing that, the defense's role is different then in Philly/NY where their qb's limit the offense and they are building dominant defenses.

I liken it to Mahomes first years as starter in KC. Their defenses did just enough to win, now their defense is leaned on a lot more.

I see these first 3 years as using draft as to conduct true team culture and base building by getting the best team athelete on their board regardless of team need and filling out the team with FA that fit the team concept and mold. After year 4 as JD5's $650M contract comes due, I believe we will see more attention to need through the draft with a lot less reliance on FAs.

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[CRedskinsRule]

As someone who put $5 On McCaffrey and $5 on Sinott each game to score a touchdown I guarantee neither of them lived up to the potential that the club hope for. Maybe one or both break out but I don't think the organization can just assume that they do.

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[WCommandersfan99]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

As someone who put $5 On McCaffrey and $5 on Sinott each game to score a touchdown I guarantee neither of them lived up to the potential that the club hope for. Maybe one or both break out but I don't think the organization can just assume that they do.

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Giving up on players after 1 season is absurd especially when they have proven, experienced players in front of them at positions most rookies don't make a huge impact at 1st season. McLaurin, Brown, Ertz etc. Sinnot was a 2nd rounder who brings tools and and can be dynamite in this league. Ertz just balled out too much for him to get in the mix. Bates played too for his stellar blocking and few catches a year.

McCaffrey may never be a star, but he can still be serviceable. Please keep in mind he is fairly new to the position being a former qb. He also has good size, 4.68, hands, and excels with catches in traffic. Kids has stones. Seriously would not be surprised if this kid has a decent pro career. His father and especially brother did to say the least.