Rank the NFC East teams position by position....

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

When I break down Romo's passes from last year, the trends are startling. Almost zero of his most valuable completions went to wide receivers. Consistently, Romo was best throwing to his tight ends and backs. Little things like that tend to be the mark of good quarterbacking.

I'm gonna' have to disagree with you there. Doesn't that suggest that he dumped off two yard passes that the receiver or running back turned into huge gains? I think he was second or third in the league in interceptions and a lot of those were him trying to force throws deep. Truly, much like the Cowboys of the 90s, Romo and the RBs are playing behind a superior line. Call it what you want, but he has ALL day to sit back there. He's elusive yes, but I have never been like, "Wow, his throwing skills are amazing."

I always would see him have forever to throw or scramble and check down for a short throw that, in the stat books, looks like a huge completion. Sure, his elusiveness might suggest he's a great QB, but couldn't you say that about Vick and others?

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Go back to your rankings,you rank the Cowboys over the Giants in everything Offensivly.QB ratings don't mean anything .....can he win a big game ,Eli has ,Romo hasn't............,so the Super Bowl wasn't a big game .Like it or not he got the MVP...he must have done something in that game!Hey I bet Tom Brady has better QB rating then Eli but on that day Eli won ,that day he was the better QB.

Key words. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while.

Originally Posted by Giantone

Go back to your rankings,you rank the Cowboys over the Giants in everything Offensivly.

...and your point is? I think they are better. If you dont like it call your congressman.

Originally Posted by Giantone

QB ratings don't mean anything .....

I just listed the QB rating because it was easier than copying and pasting every stat that proves my point.

Originally Posted by Giantone

can he win a big game ,Eli has ,Romo hasn't............,so the Super Bowl wasn't a big game .Like it or not he got the MVP...he must have done something in that game!

Actually there was no single player worth it so they gave the MVP to Eli. They should of given the MVP to the whole defensive line of the Giants. Hell I think David Tyree deserved it more catching a TD and then making a huge catch to help setup the GW TD.

[pick-ups]

Originally Posted by horse

**** philly if it was'nt for chicago, dallas, tampa, and us falling apart for no real reason they should'nt have even made the playoffs.

....and IF the Redskins beat the Rams then what.

In the NFL every game matters and if's are nothing more than an excuse.

`08 is over and I'm excited about the upcoming season.

Originally Posted by pick-ups

`08 is over and I'm excited about the upcoming season.

You should be dude. The Eagles have a really good team this year. If they put it all together they might finally win a Super Bowl.

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Eli talent wise is the worst QB in this division and he did ride the the Giants defense to a SB win and I cannot knock them as a team for that.

The Pats win that meeting 9 out of 10 times and Eli tried as hard as possible to give that game to the Pats,so I cannot be told that Eli was the best player that day.

Anyways that is all in the past and I can't wait to see Eli(heading into his first season of his career w/o Buress or any sort of a true #1 WR).

Welcome to McNabbs world and I promise you that Eli doesn't possess what McNabb does to carry his team through out parts of the season.

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Originally Posted by Brian Orakpo

You should be dude. The Eagles have a really good team this year. If they put it all together they might finally win a Super Bowl.

Hey I'm a realist and the Eagles have had their chances,but some how seem to always gag when it matters.

I do like their chances this year,but honestly any of the teams this year in the NFC East could represent the conference and I wouldn't in the least be shocked...

[ChickenMonkey]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

QB-Philly, NYG, Washington, Dallas; Romo takes a big step backwards without T.O. and Campbell takes a big step forward. McNabb is far and away the best in the division.

RB-Dallas, Washington, NYG, Philly; Barber, Jones and Choice could all start for some teams. Portis puts up his normal 1,300-11 TD season.

WR-Washington, Philly, Dallas, NYG; Surprisingly I feel like we have the fewest questions at WR. Philly and NY are putting a lot of faith in rookies and in Dallas, Roy Williams hasn't proven anything to show he's going to be a reliable #1.

TE-Dallas, Washington, Philly, NYG; Witten is one of the best in the game, Cooley not far behind him. The drop off is precipitous after those two.

OL-NYG, Philly, Washington, Dallas; Why Washington over Dallas? They are actually OLDER and more injury prone than our OL. I like Dockery coming back and think Heyer will solve our RT questions.

DL-NYG, Dallas, Washington, Philly; With Osi coming back the Giants are going to be really scary up front. Haynesworth helps but you can count on him and Griff missing 2-4 games each year so you've got to discount them somewhat.

LB-Dallas, NYG, Washington, Philly; Ware is the best pass rusher in the league, NYG have 3 solid starters and decent depth.

CB-Washington, Philly, Dallas, NYG; Hall and Rogers are slightly better than Samuels and Hobbs. Dallas is counting on development in the 2nd year from some players and NYG is solid but not great.

S-Washington, NYG, Dallas, Philly; Landry/Horton/Moore puts them above the rest of the division. Probably our strongest unit.

ST-Philly, Dallas, NYG Washington; DeSean Jackson is the difference maker here. Dallas has the best kicker/punter combo, we've still got question marks at K and in the return game.

Coaches-NYG, Philly, Washington, Dallas; Pretty simple Coughlin won a SB, Reid has been to a Super Bowl, I like Zorn in his 2nd year more than Phillips who is the most obvious lame duck in the NFL.

Overall-NYG, Washington, Philly, Dallas; The Giants are still the class of the division until proven otherwise. I expect improvement in year 2 of Zorn's offense and the additions to our defense should make us more dangerous in terms of sacks and turnovers. Philly was dead in the water last November before making a nice run but over the last 4 years they are only one game better than us in the W-L column. Dallas lost their best player on offense, didn't do much in FA or the draft and have the look of an overrated 6-10 bust.

This is the first breakdown of them all that makes sense to me.....

Id like to know who the He!! Dallas,Philly, Or the Giants at this point have at WR thats better than Santana Moss????????? Riddle Me That

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Originally Posted by ChickenMonkey

This is the first breakdown of them all that makes sense to me.....

Id like to know who the He!! Dallas,Philly, Or the Giants at this point have at WR thats better than Santana Moss????????? Riddle Me That

First off Maclin wasn't a need,but in fact(BPA)and he will get some time at wide-out and be a more than likely be an outstanding return man.

DeSean has got the skills to be the best WR in the division this year and Moss ain't no spring chicken anymore.(9th season)

Moss in his 8 years has only exceeded Jacksons(rookie)production in 3 of his 8 seasons(stat wise).

Is there anyone on the Redskins roster(WRs)that you'd take over DeSean right now?

If so then......forget it.

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I will say that Moss is the best WR in the division as of right now.

Kelley and Thomas are the unknowns as of now for the Skins unlike DeSean for the Eagles.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by pick-ups

First off Maclin wasn't a need,but in fact(BPA)and he will get some time at wide-out and be a more than likely be an outstanding return man.

DeSean has got the skills to be the best WR in the division this year and Moss ain't no spring chicken anymore.(9th season)

Moss in his 8 years has only exceeded Jacksons(rookie)production in 3 of his 8 seasons(stat wise).

Is there anyone on the Redskins roster(WRs)that you'd take over DeSean right now?

If so then......forget it.

You know, probably not but the question wasn't just about #1 WR. I'd take every WR on the Redskins roster over Kevin Curtis, Jason Avant (who I actually think is decent), Hank Baskett and Reggie Brown though.

[pick-ups]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

You know, probably not but the question wasn't just about #1 WR. I'd take every WR on the Redskins roster over Kevin Curtis, Jason Avant (who I actually think is decent), Hank Baskett and Reggie Brown though.

Thats crazy you said that as I too like Avant more so than Curtis and Baskett.

Maclin is the wild card and he definitely has the skills to be a productive player,but I don't think he can do what DeSean did as a rookie WR.

The Redskins WRs will rise as Campbell does and I think he's finally got a fire lit under him with all this bullshit trade talks in the off season.

We'll see?

Originally Posted by ChickenMonkey

This is the first breakdown of them all that makes sense to me.....

Id like to know who the He!! Dallas,Philly, Or the Giants at this point have at WR thats better than Santana Moss????????? Riddle Me That

Santana Moss might be the best WR in the NFC East but that aint saying much. Moss is overrated by most Redskin fans imo. Hes a good WR but he would be better as a #2. Overall if Thomas or Kelly doesnt step up this year we easily have the worst WR core in the NFC East.

Originally Posted by Paintrain

You know, probably not but the question wasn't just about #1 WR. I'd take every WR on the Redskins roster over Kevin Curtis, Jason Avant (who I actually think is decent), Hank Baskett and Reggie Brown though.

Thats funny because right now the only Redskin WR who I think is better then Kevin Curtis is Santana Moss.

[WaldSkins]

Originally Posted by Brian Orakpo

Thats funny because right now the only Redskin WR who I think is better then Kevin Curtis is Santana Moss.

I think if you put Randel El in his natural position as a slot receiver then you would see him flourish. We just haven't had someone take the reigns as the number two WR.

Originally Posted by WaldSkins

I think if you put Randel El in his natural position as a slot receiver then you would see him flourish. We just haven't had someone take the reigns as the number two WR.

As a slot WR Randle El would be very solid even though he would probably be the highest paid slot WR in NFL history. I still think Curtis can do more things at WR then Randle El. If we could cut him and not have to take the cap hit id do it in a heartbeat.