Ocho Cinco In B&G

[Schneed10]

For some reason there's this perception that Chad Johnson is a malcontent and a locker room problem. Just because he comes up with funky celebrations and is flashy doesn't mean he's not a team player. The guy posts 1400 yard seasons every year.

As for yelling at his QB, the only time I've EVER seen him do that was this year. And is that even really a big problem? QBs and WRs can yell at each other. It happens because they're passionate and want to win. Yelling at each other does not prohibit them from playing well the next time they go back out on the field. Chad Johnson is not the kind of guy who will stop trying (like Randy Moss in Oakland) when things don't go well. He may yell at JC, but he'll still come out to practice and work hard with JC to get it right.

He's said some things about players and coaches in Cinci, but you know what, he's right. That team has ignored character. In fact, CJ is one of their GOOD character guys. He works hard, he delivers consistent performances, and he stays out of trouble. But he's surrounded by morons who break the law and coached by a guy who totally ignores it all (Marvin Lewis). The Bengals deserve criticism and Chad Johnson deserves better.

Anyone who thinks Chad is a bad guy is not paying close enough attention. Celebrations do not mean he's selfish. He's a bit of a diva, but can you say he doesn't work hard?

[Redskins8588]

Originally Posted by QBall

Bring him in. But how long before he yells at JC on the sidelines if he misses a deep ball

I don't think that CJ has to worry about Campbells deep passes, I think that JC proved this year that he has a very good deep ball. It would be the slants and out patterns that I think are the problem.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy

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Yo, thread police, take a second to realize that there's a very significant piece of news attached to this thread (JLC's blog entry) that makes it very worthy of it's own thread.

We now have JLC tying Danny and Vinny to a strong interest in Chad. That's threadworthy.

[BleedBurgundy]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Yo, thread police, take a second to realize that there's a very significant piece of news attached to this thread (JLC's blog entry) that makes it very worthy of it's own thread.

We now have JLC tying Danny and Vinny to a strong interest in Chad. That's threadworthy.

How so? A new piece of info can't be posted in an already existing thread about the same topic of conversation? Call me "thread police" if you want but there's a search feature for a reason.

[skinsnut]

I dont want to blow a 1st rounder on this guy....a third would be fine by me...we need other talent too

[TheMalcolmConnection]

If we want to talk about divas, we can look at our own Clinton Portis.

He and CJ are pretty similar personality-wise.

If it wasn't illegal, a combined Portis/CJ TD celebration would be AMAZING.

[Longtimefan]

I admire his passion for winning though his personal antics are sometimes a little over the top. He could be a tremendous asset providing we have what it takes to deal with his "character", and the coin coming his way.

[Redskins8588]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

For some reason there's this perception that Chad Johnson is a malcontent and a locker room problem. Just because he comes up with funky celebrations and is flashy doesn't mean he's not a team player. The guy posts 1400 yard seasons every year.

As for yelling at his QB, the only time I've EVER seen him do that was this year. And is that even really a big problem? QBs and WRs can yell at each other. It happens because they're passionate and want to win. Yelling at each other does not prohibit them from playing well the next time they go back out on the field. Chad Johnson is not the kind of guy who will stop trying (like Randy Moss in Oakland) when things don't go well. He may yell at JC, but he'll still come out to practice and work hard with JC to get it right.

He's said some things about players and coaches in Cinci, but you know what, he's right. That team has ignored character. In fact, CJ is one of their GOOD character guys. He works hard, he delivers consistent performances, and he stays out of trouble. But he's surrounded by morons who break the law and coached by a guy who totally ignores it all (Marvin Lewis). The Bengals deserve criticism and Chad Johnson deserves better.

Anyone who thinks Chad is a bad guy is not paying close enough attention. Celebrations do not mean he's selfish. He's a bit of a diva, but can you say he doesn't work hard?

I agree 100% with everything you said. I really don't know what the baggage is the CJ has. Everything he does,(i.e. celebrations, sending peptbismal to other teams, and whatever else) he does it to have fun. I really don't think that he sent the peptobismal to the Browns defense to "Truly" offend them, it was supposed to be done in good fun. Same thing with the end zone celebrations they are done just for fun. He didn't throw Carson under the bus like T.O. does with just about every QB he had, he doesn't come out and say "I play when I want to play". IMO, the baggage that CJ is supposedly to have is nothing more than the media trying to make mountains out of mole hills...

[SmootSmack]

The team to pay attention to is the Dolphins.

They're interviewing Hue Jackson to be their OC and he has a relationship with CJ from their days together in Cincy. Plus, Parcells wants/needs to win sooner than later. Add to that the fact that they're openly shopping their #1 pick. CJ could go back home to Miami. It all adds up.

[skinsnut]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

The team to pay attention to is the Dolphins.

They're interviewing Hue Jackson to be their OC and he has a relationship with CJ from their days together in Cincy. Plus, Parcells wants/needs to win sooner than later. Add to that the fact that they're openly shopping their #1 pick. CJ could go back home to Miami. It all adds up.

I think you're on to something here

[QBall]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

The team to pay attention to is the Dolphins.

They're interviewing Hue Jackson to be their OC and he has a relationship with CJ from their days together in Cincy. Plus, Parcells wants/needs to win sooner than later. Add to that the fact that they're openly shopping their #1 pick. CJ could go back home to Miami. It all adds up.

Wow he's # 1 pick material? Not in my mind.

[SmootSmack]

Well I wouldn't make it a straight up one for one trade, but it could be part of a bigger deal

[QBall]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Well I wouldn't make it a straight up one for one trade, but it could be part of a bigger deal

Oh that makes sense. He's really good but I think sometimes WR are not that vital compared to line, QB, RB.

Does anyone think that Portis is in danger with the team now that Gibbs is gone? His salary very high and his style may not fit what new coaching staff is doing as well. What are some great West Coast RB's?

I personally think he stays but any thoughts?

[Redskins8588]

Originally Posted by QBall

Oh that makes sense. He's really good but I think sometimes WR are not that vital compared to line, QB, RB.

Does anyone think that Portis is in danger with the team now that Gibbs is gone? His salary very high and his style may not fit what new coaching staff is doing as well. What are some great West Coast RB's?

I personally think he stays but any thoughts?

I don't see Portis going anywhere, I honestly think that he is a Redskin 4-LIFE!!

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by QBall

Oh that makes sense. He's really good but I think sometimes WR are not that vital compared to line, QB, RB.

Does anyone think that Portis is in danger with the team now that Gibbs is gone? His salary very high and his style may not fit what new coaching staff is doing as well. What are some great West Coast RB's?

I personally think he stays but any thoughts?

Great West Coast RBs?

How about...Clinton Portis. He did a pretty damn good job with that system in Denver