Ocho Cinco In B&G

[Schneed10]

For some reason there's this perception that Chad Johnson is a malcontent and a locker room problem. Just because he comes up with funky celebrations and is flashy doesn't mean he's not a team player. The guy posts 1400 yard seasons every year.

As for yelling at his QB, the only time I've EVER seen him do that was this year. And is that even really a big problem? QBs and WRs can yell at each other. It happens because they're passionate and want to win. Yelling at each other does not prohibit them from playing well the next time they go back out on the field. Chad Johnson is not the kind of guy who will stop trying (like Randy Moss in Oakland) when things don't go well. He may yell at JC, but he'll still come out to practice and work hard with JC to get it right.

He's said some things about players and coaches in Cinci, but you know what, he's right. That team has ignored character. In fact, CJ is one of their GOOD character guys. He works hard, he delivers consistent performances, and he stays out of trouble. But he's surrounded by morons who break the law and coached by a guy who totally ignores it all (Marvin Lewis). The Bengals deserve criticism and Chad Johnson deserves better.

Anyone who thinks Chad is a bad guy is not paying close enough attention. Celebrations do not mean he's selfish. He's a bit of a diva, but can you say he doesn't work hard?

[Redskins8588]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

For some reason there's this perception that Chad Johnson is a malcontent and a locker room problem. Just because he comes up with funky celebrations and is flashy doesn't mean he's not a team player. The guy posts 1400 yard seasons every year.

As for yelling at his QB, the only time I've EVER seen him do that was this year. And is that even really a big problem? QBs and WRs can yell at each other. It happens because they're passionate and want to win. Yelling at each other does not prohibit them from playing well the next time they go back out on the field. Chad Johnson is not the kind of guy who will stop trying (like Randy Moss in Oakland) when things don't go well. He may yell at JC, but he'll still come out to practice and work hard with JC to get it right.

He's said some things about players and coaches in Cinci, but you know what, he's right. That team has ignored character. In fact, CJ is one of their GOOD character guys. He works hard, he delivers consistent performances, and he stays out of trouble. But he's surrounded by morons who break the law and coached by a guy who totally ignores it all (Marvin Lewis). The Bengals deserve criticism and Chad Johnson deserves better.

Anyone who thinks Chad is a bad guy is not paying close enough attention. Celebrations do not mean he's selfish. He's a bit of a diva, but can you say he doesn't work hard?

I agree 100% with everything you said. I really don't know what the baggage is the CJ has. Everything he does,(i.e. celebrations, sending peptbismal to other teams, and whatever else) he does it to have fun. I really don't think that he sent the peptobismal to the Browns defense to "Truly" offend them, it was supposed to be done in good fun. Same thing with the end zone celebrations they are done just for fun. He didn't throw Carson under the bus like T.O. does with just about every QB he had, he doesn't come out and say "I play when I want to play". IMO, the baggage that CJ is supposedly to have is nothing more than the media trying to make mountains out of mole hills...

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

For some reason there's this perception that Chad Johnson is a malcontent and a locker room problem. Just because he comes up with funky celebrations and is flashy doesn't mean he's not a team player. The guy posts 1400 yard seasons every year.

As for yelling at his QB, the only time I've EVER seen him do that was this year. And is that even really a big problem? QBs and WRs can yell at each other. It happens because they're passionate and want to win. Yelling at each other does not prohibit them from playing well the next time they go back out on the field. Chad Johnson is not the kind of guy who will stop trying (like Randy Moss in Oakland) when things don't go well. He may yell at JC, but he'll still come out to practice and work hard with JC to get it right.

He's said some things about players and coaches in Cinci, but you know what, he's right. That team has ignored character. In fact, CJ is one of their GOOD character guys. He works hard, he delivers consistent performances, and he stays out of trouble. But he's surrounded by morons who break the law and coached by a guy who totally ignores it all (Marvin Lewis). The Bengals deserve criticism and Chad Johnson deserves better.

Anyone who thinks Chad is a bad guy is not paying close enough attention. Celebrations do not mean he's selfish. He's a bit of a diva, but can you say he doesn't work hard?

He isn't necessarily a bad guy, but do you really need a diva type coming in and taking over the team? He might piss of Santana, Cooley, Randle El, or even JC if things don't go his way. I agree with a previous poster, try and develop some of these young guys that will stay longer and come at a cheaper initial price. It is time to get dirty and build an actual team and quit this sexy FA pick garbage.

[GMScud]

Why are we even discussing this anymore? The Bengals thankfully saved us from ourselves last year by not accepting two first round picks (we wouldn't have Orakpo, Kelly, Thomas, or Fred Davis) for Chad.

Whether or not he would have been a good member of the B&G we will never know. But he's a Bengal and it's going to stay that way. End of story really.