can WE now start a countdown to a new coach and qb

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

I didn't say or infer that he is a colossal failure (not sure where you are pulling that from), I said that this is the wrong town for a coach to learn on the job.

I would argue that the offense has taken a step back from Gibbs 2.0 and that an experienced offensive coach and playcaller would be scoring more points with this team.

Or Zorn as the playcaller and someone like a Fassel to be the headcoach and say "No Jim, we're not going to run an option pass on 3rd down in the red zone. Pick another play"

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Or Zorn as the playcaller and someone like a Fassel to be the headcoach and say "No Jim, we're not going to run an option pass on 3rd down in the red zone. Pick another play"

Maybe Danny Smith can have playcalling veto, too!

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

For his sake, I wish Fassel had been signed and Zorn was OC. I do feel bad for him, but our window of opportunity with a lot of these veterans will close before he is up to speed.

If Fassel is so good why is he coaching in the UFL? Ditto for Billick. If the Redskins were to make a coaching change, my choices would be Tony Dungy or Cam Cameron.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

If Fassel is so good why is he coaching in the UFL? Ditto for Billick. If the Redskins were to make a coaching change, my choices would be Tony Dungy or Cam Cameron.

Dungy! However, I am not giving up on Zorn YET.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Buster

Dungy! However, I am not giving up on Zorn YET.

I agree, not giving up just yet after 2 games.

[roth74va]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I agree, not giving up just yet after 2 games.

Ummm....18 games, Im not sure Zorn can handle being Head coach and the playcaller. If Gibbs admitted that he would be better served letting an offensive coordinator call plays, why does Zorn think he can do any better. Because he is a genius, and needs to feed his ego! Plus "I really enjoy calling the plays", enjoy it while you can Zorny!

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

If Fassel is so good why is he coaching in the UFL? Ditto for Billick. If the Redskins were to make a coaching change, my choices would be Tony Dungy or Cam Cameron.

I really don't care where they are working now. Both of their resumes crush Zorn's.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

I really don't care where they are working now. Both of their resumes crush Zorn's.

Let's give Zorn a chance, you can't judge him after 2 games into the season.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Let's give Zorn a chance, you can't judge him after 2 games into the season.

I am judging him on the last 10 games and the pre-season. After we were 6-2 the league started making adjustments and Zorn has not shown the ability to counter-punch the league to date.

He deserves a chance but he is just dealing with the wrong city and fanbase to learn how to be a playcaller and head coach while on the job.

[Bozzy]

Absurd. Jim Zorn's offense ran up and down the field, and just didnt score because of MISTAKES by the players. I don't recall Zorn dropping any TD passes Sunday....which Devin Thomas and Mike Sellers both did. Zorn didn't fumble in the red zone either, that was Santana.
Calling for Zorn to be fired is not appropriate. His playcalling produced several long drives, and if the players didnt commit stupid mistakes, we would have scored TDs.

We won because of our D and Zorn.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by Bozzy

Absurd. Jim Zorn's offense ran up and down the field, and just didnt score because of MISTAKES by the players. I don't recall Zorn dropping any TD passes Sunday....which Devin Thomas and Mike Sellers both did. Zorn didn't fumble in the red zone either, that was Santana.
Calling for Zorn to be fired is not appropriate. His playcalling produced several long drives, and if the players didnt commit stupid mistakes, we would have scored TDs.

We won because of our D and Zorn.

Zorn doesn't even have clock management down at this point. Snyder put him in a bad position and it looks to me like he isn't far from cracking.

[skins89moss]

Originally Posted by Bozzy

Absurd. Jim Zorn's offense ran up and down the field, and just didnt score because of MISTAKES by the players. I don't recall Zorn dropping any TD passes Sunday....which Devin Thomas and Mike Sellers both did. Zorn didn't fumble in the red zone either, that was Santana.
Calling for Zorn to be fired is not appropriate. His playcalling produced several long drives, and if the players didnt commit stupid mistakes, we would have scored TDs.

We won because of our D and Zorn.

A point well taken Bozzy. But that would make to much sense for some our fans to figure out.

[SBXVII]

I really wonder what Gruden would do with this team? or atleast I have been wondering lately. Defense is pretty much set. Now if DS goes into rebuild mode at the end of this season I would like to see the Skins change to a 3-4 defense.

but Gruden would already have decent WR's, decent RB's to pick from, All he would need to focus on is getting a franchise QB and picking up O-lineman in the draft.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I really wonder what Gruden would do with this team? or atleast I have been wondering lately. Defense is pretty much set. Now if DS goes into rebuild mode at the end of this season I would like to see the Skins change to a 3-4 defense.

but Gruden would already have decent WR's, decent RB's to pick from, All he would need to focus on is getting a franchise QB and picking up O-lineman in the draft.

Going into an uncapped year, I don't see rebuild mode next year. I would be fine with Gruden. He is from Holmgren's tree so the verbage should be similar.

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I really wonder what Gruden would do with this team? or atleast I have been wondering lately. Defense is pretty much set. Now if DS goes into rebuild mode at the end of this season I would like to see the Skins change to a 3-4 defense.

but Gruden would already have decent WR's, decent RB's to pick from, All he would need to focus on is getting a franchise QB and picking up O-lineman in the draft.

I've been thinking that myself. Gruden does very well for himself when he inherits teams that already have talent and structure. He's a mean SOB too. Who knows what will happen? We'll all just have to sit back and let this all play itself through. The question I ask to myself is, who would I rather have in the front office, 53Fan, CDRedskinsRule, or SFREDSKIN? I'd take the job myself if this cubicle wasn't so fruitful. Besides, I'd just draft fat ass O-line men, D tackles, and make the Skins a defensive team. Lord knows that can't work.