Replacing the KO

[Daseal]

Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

I totally agree. The best thing the NFL can do to reduce injuries is a tougher stance on helmet to helmet hits. I would support a yellow card/red card type of approach for helmet to helmet hits. Two yellows or one red = out for a game, or something like that.

I also want to point out that Schiano's proposal heavily favors passing teams. It's almost impossible to pick up a first down rushing it on 4th and 15.

I actually have a bit of an issue with the helmet-to-helmet hits you're suggesting. Especially with the way rules are enforced now. You NEVER see an offensive player hit with that penalty. I've seen many a RB/FB drop their head to create helmet to helmet contact with the defender, but I've never seen a flag go up because of it. Additionally, I've seen flags on the defender when the offensive player ducks their head at the last second.

These plays happen so quickly and there are so many variables that could cause it, that penalties being too high could be detrimental to the game. There are some hits that are quite obviously helmet-to-helmet, premeditated, lined up, and executed. But they are the minority when you look at penalties.

I want to see offensive players held as accountable as defensive players are, and if you get more strict when it comes to in-game penalties, they need to become reviewable. A couple fingers grazing the QBs helmet shouldn't be considered a penalty. We've gone a bit too far to limit these plays.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by Daseal

I actually have a bit of an issue with the helmet-to-helmet hits you're suggesting. Especially with the way rules are enforced now. You NEVER see an offensive player hit with that penalty. I've seen many a RB/FB drop their head to create helmet to helmet contact with the defender, but I've never seen a flag go up because of it. Additionally, I've seen flags on the defender when the offensive player ducks their head at the last second.

These plays happen so quickly and there are so many variables that could cause it, that penalties being too high could be detrimental to the game. There are some hits that are quite obviously helmet-to-helmet, premeditated, lined up, and executed. But they are the minority when you look at penalties.

I want to see offensive players held as accountable as defensive players are, and if you get more strict when it comes to in-game penalties, they need to become reviewable. A couple fingers grazing the QBs helmet shouldn't be considered a penalty. We've gone a bit too far to limit these plays.

That is exactly right.
The offensive player lowering his head and barreling forward is dangerous to his well being. Eagles RB LeSean McCoy did exactly that against us late in the fourth quarter of the Eagles' 31-6 loss and was severely concussed. That was his fault for lowering his head.

The refs also have to have the authority to decide if an inadvertent hand to the Qb's helmet or any other protective rule that was accidental in nature and did not cause any serious contact or injury should be a NO CALL. The game changing 15-yard personal fouls have to be blatant and obvious. There are too many that are accidental and not intentional and are incorrectly called as foul. That has to change.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by Daseal

I actually have a bit of an issue with the helmet-to-helmet hits you're suggesting. Especially with the way rules are enforced now. You NEVER see an offensive player hit with that penalty. I've seen many a RB/FB drop their head to create helmet to helmet contact with the defender, but I've never seen a flag go up because of it. Additionally, I've seen flags on the defender when the offensive player ducks their head at the last second.

These plays happen so quickly and there are so many variables that could cause it, that penalties being too high could be detrimental to the game. There are some hits that are quite obviously helmet-to-helmet, premeditated, lined up, and executed. But they are the minority when you look at penalties.

I want to see offensive players held as accountable as defensive players are, and if you get more strict when it comes to in-game penalties, they need to become reviewable. A couple fingers grazing the QBs helmet shouldn't be considered a penalty. We've gone a bit too far to limit these plays.

Good points. Offensive players are responsible a lot of the times, and they don't get flagged. I suppose the best approach is to try to judge intent through the review process, but most fans wouldn't like that. The head to head hits are just too dangerous to ignore in my opinion.