Who are the Coach Killers?

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I don't get this list. If you're a QB on a team who may be fired you're a coach killer?

I think I see what the OP's saying, talking about bad personnel decisions leading to coaches getting fired, and I agree with you, SS. Cause and effect aren't that strongly linked here.

I thought this thread would be about players that threw the coach under the bus, and the coach ended up getting fired. But since we're talking about players not trying to get coaches fired, just thru poor performance...

Jason Campbell qualifies as a coach killer as much as the others listed. It's telling that Joe Gibbs drafted him to be our QB long term, and the two times we made the playoffs was with Campbell on the bench. Once with Todd Collins, who wouldn't start anywhere without Saunder's 700 page playbook present. (But that '07 run was great, just overshadowed by ST21's murder.)

Vinny Cerrato and Jim Zorn's careers were absolutely tied to finally developing Campbell into a star QB, dumping Saunders and benching Collins after Gibbs left. And Shanahan wasted little time trading Campbell afterwards.

Carson Palmer to Oakland was a coach killer move for Oakland. The Sanchez/Tebow moves are coach killers. I could be wrong, but I think NOT getting RG3 helped kill Holgrem as GM.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

I think I see what the OP's saying, talking about bad personnel decisions leading to coaches getting fired, and I agree with you, SS. Cause and effect aren't that strongly linked here.

I thought this thread would be about players that threw the coach under the bus, and the coach ended up getting fired. But since we're talking about players not trying to get coaches fired, just thru poor performance...

Jason Campbell qualifies as a coach killer as much as the others listed. It's telling that Joe Gibbs drafted him to be our QB long term, and the two times we made the playoffs was with Campbell on the bench. Once with Todd Collins, who wouldn't start anywhere without Saunder's 700 page playbook present. (But that '07 run was great, just overshadowed by ST21's murder.)

Vinny Cerrato and Jim Zorn's careers were absolutely tied to finally developing Campbell into a star QB, dumping Saunders and benching Collins after Gibbs left. And Shanahan wasted little time trading Campbell afterwards.

Carson Palmer to Oakland was a coach killer move for Oakland. The Sanchez/Tebow moves are coach killers. I could be wrong, but I think NOT getting RG3 helped kill Holgrem as GM.

I thought the Tebow thing was more of the owners then the coach.

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by firstdown

I thought the Tebow thing was more of the owners then the coach.

Oh yeah, in most of these situations, the coach is the scapegoat for the owner's decisions, players, etc. Agree totally.