Supreme Court Upholds Health Care Mandate

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

The system needs changes, but Obamacare is not the way. Also, if you checked the links I originally posted it's pretty clear the majority do not want Obamacare as it stands today.

It's not pretty clear. What is clear is that many people that do oppose it think it doesn't go far enough. Look, I have polls too!

CBS Poll: For Many, Health Care Reform Does Not Go Far Enough | FDL Action

The most interesting questions in the poll were about whether people think reform went far enough or went too far: When asked about trying to “provide health insurance to as many Americans as possible,” 32% said that the plan goes too far, 35% said it doesn’t go far enough, and 22% said it is about right.

If you claim the system needs changing, but Obamacare is not the way, then why in the hell hasn't the GOP or any other talking head conservative come up with a plan? Oh I know why, because they don't want one. That's why.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

It's not pretty clear. What is clear is that many people that do oppose it think it doesn't go far enough. Look, I have polls too!

CBS Poll: For Many, Health Care Reform Does Not Go Far Enough | FDL Action





If you claim the system needs changing, but Obamacare is not the way, then why in the hell hasn't the GOP or any other talking head conservative come up with a plan? Oh I know why, because they don't want one. That's why.

The right has presented several plans.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by firstdown

The right has presented several plans.

Links? Cliff notes?

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Links? Cliff notes?

well one passed lil Bush where he litterally let lobbies write up the perscription bill plane, which has exceeded cost, think that was 2003.

Nothing else substantial or serious other than cutting medicare and medicade, which cutting is not a plan.

Avg industrial nation spends bout 11-12% on health care (a staggering amount imo). We have had no plan approach and our costs are approaching 18%. That cost will only rise but our country has a massive and I mean MASSIVE all caps massive (the most serious) baby boomer generation retiring, those costs will only increase.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

well one passed lil Bush where he litterally let lobbies write up the perscription bill plane, which has exceeded cost, think that was 2003.

Nothing else substantial or serious other than cutting medicare and medicade, which cutting is not a plan.

Avg industrial nation spends bout 11-12% on health care (a staggering amount imo). We have had no plan approach and our costs are approaching 18%. That cost will only rise but our country has a massive and I mean MASSIVE all caps massive (the most serious) baby boomer generation retiring, those costs will only increase.

These are no where near actual legislation, but key points of GOP plans:

http://camp.house.gov/UploadedFiles/..._Care_plan.pdf

Repeal and Replace the Job-Destroying Health Care Law - A Pledge to America - GOP.gov

Agree 100% on bolded point, and lil Bush should've never pushed the prescription drug plan.