Colts Officially Release Peyton Manning (QB Thread #11)

[whistler]

Originally Posted by los panda

what exactly about manning does not fit our system? i'm thinking bootlegs, but then i think about rex grossman... someone set me straight

Manning's offense is extremely vertical, where as the Shanny's west coast system is crossing routes and such, also if you've ever heard little shanny he calls the play and which route to throw (very micro or anal).

[los panda]

Originally Posted by whistler

Manning's offense is extremely vertical, where as the Shanny's west coast system is crossing routes and such, also if you've ever heard little shanny he calls the play and which route to throw (very micro or anal).

you're saying he can't throw crossing routes and such?

[whistler]

Originally Posted by los panda

you're saying he can't throw crossing routes and such?

Not saying that. I am saying that the offense that he's been in since he came into the league 14yrs ago, is not and does not resemble a west coast offense, if you want the Manning that you are used to it won't be the same guy. With that said does anyone think that for the 2yrs he would be here the shanny's would alter everything? Also, the Texans ran a similar version of shanny's west coast but they went over the top because of Andre Johnson, there is no Andre Johnson in Washington.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by whistler

Not saying that. I am saying that the offense that he's been in since he came into the league 14yrs ago, is not and does not resemble a west coast offense, if you want the Manning that you are used to it won't be the same guy. With that said does anyone think that for the 2yrs he would be here the shanny's would alter everything? Also, the Texans ran a similar version of shanny's west coast but they went over the top because of Andre Johnson, there is no Andre Johnson in Washington.

Peyton Manning ain't got to run no stinkin' Shanny offense. Shanny will run Peyton's offense, just like any other team that signs him.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by whistler

Not saying that. I am saying that the offense that he's been in since he came into the league 14yrs ago, is not and does not resemble a west coast offense, if you want the Manning that you are used to it won't be the same guy. With that said does anyone think that for the 2yrs he would be here the shanny's would alter everything? Also, the Texans ran a similar version of shanny's west coast but they went over the top because of Andre Johnson, there is no Andre Johnson in Washington.

Andre Johnson has missed a lot of games over the years and their Offense remains the same. There will be a WR suitable for Manning. Skins have better TEs and the Garcons and Waynes of the world are hardly one of a kind. Add a VJax, Colston or Blackmon to Davis, Cooley,Hankerson, Gaffney and Moss, and PM has plenty of weapons. Don't think he's coming here though.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by whistler

Not saying that. I am saying that the offense that he's been in since he came into the league 14yrs ago, is not and does not resemble a west coast offense, if you want the Manning that you are used to it won't be the same guy. With that said does anyone think that for the 2yrs he would be here the shanny's would alter everything? Also, the Texans ran a similar version of shanny's west coast but they went over the top because of Andre Johnson, there is no Andre Johnson in Washington.

Therefore, by your own logic, the Shanny offense CAN be adapted to go "over the top."

Andre Johnson causes adaptation in Houston, Peyton Manning causes adaptation in Washington.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by whistler

Not saying that. I am saying that the offense that he's been in since he came into the league 14yrs ago, is not and does not resemble a west coast offense, if you want the Manning that you are used to it won't be the same guy. With that said does anyone think that for the 2yrs he would be here the shanny's would alter everything? Also, the Texans ran a similar version of shanny's west coast but they went over the top because of Andre Johnson, there is no Andre Johnson in Washington.

Now I'm confused? Are you an RGIII fan? Cause I said the very same thing about RGIII being brought in and would the coaching staff alter their game plan to bring out the best in RGIII and several here said of course the coaching staff would have to. So if they can alter for RGIII then they can alter for a HOFer.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by los panda

you're saying he can't throw crossing routes and such?

Ridiculous. He throws the ball and someone catches it. Simple as that. System and play calling my ass. It's all football in the end.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by whistler

Manning's offense is extremely vertical, where as the Shanny's west coast system is crossing routes and such, also if you've ever heard little shanny he calls the play and which route to throw (very micro or anal).

Neither Shanahan runs a traditional west coast offense. The basic philosophy has always been run the ball and then hit the deep passes off play action. In fact it's that love for the deep ball that sees many a QB under Shanahan struggle to complete more then 60% of their passes. Even Elway. It's also part of the reason Shanahan loves QB's that can throw downfield.