Peyton Manning or RGIII your choice

[diehard]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

All we would need to give up for the 2nd pick should only be roughly 2012 1st, 2013 1st and 3rd MAYBE, and may not even be that much it's only 4 spots

That doesn't seem like a lot but, imagine if the Skins didn't have a first round and third round pick this year? We've seen that and it ain't fun. Not only that, it forces the team to overspend for FAs.

[redskins5044]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

All we would need to give up for the 2nd pick should only be roughly 2012 1st, 2013 1st and 3rd MAYBE, and may not even be that much it's only 4 spots

It's going to cost more then that sorry, we would only be really giving up 2 picks. There is going to competition for that #2 pick, from the browns, seahawks, dolphins, and could be some sleeper teams wanting to trade up like chiefs or jags.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Here's what puzzles me: Some people here don't want to trade next years 1st to get RGIII but would be fine with BPA and trade back into the 1st round to get Tannehill. What do you think we'd be giving up to get back into the first rd? Heinz ketchup?

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Two first and a third. Same as the Eli Manning trade.

Wgen it's all said and done I feel that is what it will end up being. Whether we move to #2 or #3.

[redskins5044]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Here's what puzzles me: Some people here don't want to trade next years 1st to get RGIII but would be fine with BPA and trade back into the 1st round to get Tannehill. What do you think we'd be giving up to get back into the first rd? Heinz ketchup?

Nope we should just take him at #6. Lol

[30gut]

Originally Posted by mooby

I don't think Hoyer is a joke but he is an unknown. What concrete evidence do we have that if given a chance, he has a solid future in this league? Who on our staff knows him? How do you a scout a player who has never seen any playing time not in the preseason? And why would an unknown be worth a third round pick?

I think you scout young unknown QBs the same way you scout a college prospect: skill set.
Skill set is the only evidence any rookie or young unproven QB can have to suggest whether or not they'll succeed.
We know that Hoyer has shown the skillset to get drafted and make an NFL roster.
He's also shown the skillset to be the back-up QB for a well run franchise that values every spot on the roster and expects the next man up to produce.
The fact that Bellichick trust him as the back-up for his playoff team alone speaks volumes.

But in the end Hoyer is no different then Flynn or Josh Johnson or Jimmy Clausen or Tyrod Taylor or Matt Lienart or any young, journeyman or second chance QB.

Only opportunity will answer the question of whether they can handle being thee guy.

I understand the concern for the fans of this franchise if the Shanahan's choose to go the journeymen/second chance QB route.
Going after a guy like Hoyer would be an unconventional approach to addressing this team's QB need and the Shanahan has used up the cache of QB failure leeway.
If they try and use the smartest man in the room approach to address the QB position they cannot afford to get it wrong.
And the perception right or wrong is that journeyman/second chance QBs are less likely to succeed then drafted QBs.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

^^^ Do what you gotta do.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by redskins5044

It's going to cost more then that sorry, we would only be really giving up 2 picks. There is going to competition for that #2 pick, from the browns, seahawks, dolphins, and could be some sleeper teams wanting to trade up like chiefs or jags.

If so then IDW to trade for him

[MTK]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Here's what puzzles me: Some people here don't want to trade next years 1st to get RGIII but would be fine with BPA and trade back into the 1st round to get Tannehill. What do you think we'd be giving up to get back into the first rd? Heinz ketchup?

It won't be as steep as trading up to 1 or 2

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Hoyer wasn't drafted 30gut.

[skinsfaninok]

why are we even talking about Brian Hoyer as our FRANCHISE ? Cmon people might as well keep Rex

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

It won't be as steep but moving from 39 to 20-25 will still cost us the 2013 1st round pick.

[redskins5044]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Hoyer wasn't drafted 30gut.

Who cares that he wasn't drafted? Still unproven like any other QB whos going to start this year unless it's manning, Orton or some other mystery QB who has not been linked the skins yet.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

^^ I was simply correcting 30 because he thought he was.

[skinsfaninok]

Give me Manning in FA, if not then PLEASE RGIII