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Old 02-11-2012, 02:19 PM   #1
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Re: Peyton Manning or RGIII your choice

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To me Girffin looks like a young Michael Vick with a MUCH better head on his shoulders. I don't think he'll have a problem with his footwork or being under center. If Vick can do it then so can he. He'll have to take real deep drops like Vick does. I just think whoever gets him is going to have to design an offense like Philly has done. A lot of deep stuff and staying in shotgun a lot.
But we won't know until he actually tries. Also I'm sure experts said the same thing about Vince Young.

But yes you are right whoever takes him should and most likely will have to change their design to fit his tallents.

So now the big question.... would the Skins change their scheme or design to fit his abilities or would they force him to fit into their system?
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Old 02-11-2012, 03:47 PM   #2
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But we won't know until he actually tries. Also I'm sure experts said the same thing about Vince Young.

But yes you are right whoever takes him should and most likely will have to change their design to fit his tallents.

So now the big question.... would the Skins change their scheme or design to fit his abilities or would they force him to fit into their system?
If he can't drop back and be an elite passer in a pro style system I don't want him. Big Ben, Manning brothers, Brady, Brees and Rodgers. That's the kind of QB play that wins Super Bowls. Give me a guy like that. If RGIII needs a special offense that caters to his unique skillset then we shouldn't be trading up to get him. I don't want to rely on his legs and am not interested in a gimmicky offense. Let some other team run with that experiment. Until I see someone win it all like that, count me not interested.

For the record, I'm in the neither camp unless RGIII falls to 6 and the Shanny's assess him to be an ideal fit for their system.
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If he can't drop back and be an elite passer in a pro style system I don't want him. Big Ben, Manning brothers, Brady, Brees and Rodgers. That's the kind of QB play that wins Super Bowls. Give me a guy like that. If RGIII needs a special offense that caters to his unique skillset then we shouldn't be trading up to get him. I don't want to rely on his legs and am not interested in a gimmicky offense. Let some other team run with that experiment. Until I see someone win it all like that, count me not interested.

For the record, I'm in the neither camp unless RGIII falls to 6 and the Shanny's assess him to be an ideal fit for their system.
Michael Vick can run the Philly offense quite well. It was laziness(unwillingness), not inability that was hindering him in Atlanta.

Funny, but Rodgers transitioned from a "spread" just fine.
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Old 02-11-2012, 05:24 PM   #4
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If he can't drop back and be an elite passer in a pro style system I don't want him. Big Ben, Manning brothers, Brady, Brees and Rodgers. That's the kind of QB play that wins Super Bowls. Give me a guy like that. If RGIII needs a special offense that caters to his unique skillset then we shouldn't be trading up to get him. I don't want to rely on his legs and am not interested in a gimmicky offense. Let some other team run with that experiment. Until I see someone win it all like that, count me not interested.

For the record, I'm in the neither camp unless RGIII falls to 6 and the Shanny's assess him to be an ideal fit for their system.
How does anyone know right now what type of QB Griffin will become?

We don't know and can't know.
The only thing we can judge is Griffin's skillset.

BTW-
Scrambling athleitc QBs like Joe Montana, Steve Young, Brett Favre, John Elway, Ben Roethlisberger, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodger have also won SBs.
There have also been a bunch of pocket passers that have lost SBs or never been to SB or failed to even be good QBs.

Also just because Baylor runs a spread doesn't mean that Griffin can only succeed in a spread.
Further spread QBs have been making the transition into the NFL for awhile now since Ben Roethlisberger to Andy Dalton, Cam Newton, Sam Bradford, Joe Flacco.
While at the same time NFL passing games are running more and more spread concepts.
The undefeated Patriots were largely a spread offense, current Bills offense is a spread, the Panthers/Broncos are spread and zone-read heavy offenses, the Packers run alot of spread etc.
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How does anyone know right now what type of QB Griffin will become?

We don't know and can't know.
The only thing we can judge is Griffin's skillset.

BTW-
Scrambling athleitc QBs like Joe Montana, Steve Young, Brett Favre, John Elway, Ben Roethlisberger, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodger have also won SBs.
There have also been a bunch of pocket passers that have lost SBs or never been to SB or failed to even be good QBs.

Also just because Baylor runs a spread doesn't mean that Griffin can only succeed in a spread.
Further spread QBs have been making the transition into the NFL for awhile now since Ben Roethlisberger to Andy Dalton, Cam Newton, Sam Bradford, Joe Flacco.
While at the same time NFL passing games are running more and more spread concepts.
The undefeated Patriots were largely a spread offense, current Bills offense is a spread, the Panthers/Broncos are spread and zone-read heavy offenses, the Packers run alot of spread etc.

You said it perfect.... We dont know if RG can make all the passes to be a good QB, BUT we do know Peyton Manning can and can at the highest level of anyone..
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