Start John Beck Madness Thread

[irish]

Originally Posted by 44ever

When you lose to a beat up lame ass Cowboys team and barely beat the crapless Rams, their is legitimate grounds for concern. Unless of course one is short sighted. 3-1 yes, convincingly no.

The team is playing great. Grossman, not so great so far. I don't see a problem with anyone wanting Beck at this time.

Who cares about convincingly?! Style points only count in college football.

[44ever]

Originally Posted by irish

Who cares about convincingly?! Style points only count in college football.

Well if you look at his performance against Dallas, had he converted just 1 time in the RZ we would have won that game. Any average starting QB in the league given the same opportunity would have at least converted 1 in such a important game. It's a shame because everyone else around him played pretty decent, the D played more than decent holding Romo to zero. What more can a QB ask for?

Further, nobody is crying for a QB change, I don't see that at all. Most that are for Beck are content on allowing Rex to continue but would not object to seeing Beck. We are also hoping Rex has a great season.

Honestly, if Rex goes down and Beck is brought in and plays solid, I would bet those of you who are "Rex or nothing" would not want him back when healthy.

It's really a wait and see for me as I am good either way.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by 44ever

Well if you look at his performance against Dallas, had he converted just 1 time in the RZ we would have won that game. Any average starting QB in the league given the same opportunity would have at least converted 1 in such a important game. It's a shame because everyone else around him played pretty decent, the D played more than decent holding Romo to zero. What more can a QB ask for?

Further, nobody is crying for a QB change, I don't see that at all. Most that are for Beck are content on allowing Rex to continue but would not object to seeing Beck. We are also hoping Rex has a great season.

Honestly, if Rex goes down and Beck is brought in and plays solid, I would bet those of you who are "Rex or nothing" would not want him back when healthy.

It's really a wait and see for me as I am good either way.

Do we actually have this? I believe the "Rex" people are more the...."as long as we're winning" people (as in don't rock the boat). Myself included. IF he should crash....injured.......contract diptheria, and JB comes in and plays well? I think we will all become once again "as long as we're winning" for Beck fans.

[#56fanatic]

nothing like Redskin fans when we are winning games. Instead of blasting him for the dallas game, how bout we make the field goal, instead of losing by two, we win by one. Damn, at 3-1 and people still bitch.

[irish]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

nothing like Redskin fans when we are winning games. Instead of blasting him for the dallas game, how bout we make the field goal, instead of losing by two, we win by one. Damn, at 3-1 and people still bitch.

I agree, anyone can sharpshoot any game and pick out a play that should have been made, its no one play or player that wins or loses a game. I dont think Rex is getting nearly enough credit as I think most overestimate how the O should be playing. Rex is working with a WR corps that is barely average and an O line that is still a work in progress. This team could easily be 0-4 but somehow the O is scoring enough point to win and The D is playing tough. I like that they are finding ways to win.

[44ever]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

nothing like Redskin fans when we are winning games. Instead of blasting him for the dallas game, how bout we make the field goal, instead of losing by two, we win by one. Damn, at 3-1 and people still bitch.

Again, nobody is bitching but I understand your wanting to be on the side of the majority and ignore the obvious. If we need to kick 5-6 field goals to win a game when the opposing team scores zero touchdowns then Beck deserves a shot IMO.

If you just squeak by the Rams well... Lets wait and see what Shanny does, I would not be surprised to see a change at QB this season.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by 44ever

Again, nobody is bitching but I understand your wanting to be on the side of the majority and ignore the obvious. If we need to kick 5-6 field goals to win a game when the opposing team scores zero touchdowns then Beck deserves a shot IMO.

If you just squeak by the Rams well... Lets wait and see what Shanny does, I would not be surprised to see a change at QB this season.

44 it's because we see what the future holds and with REX we know it's only a matter of time until he goes Sanchez on us and losses a game or 2. Yeah he's done a decent job but the last 2 games have been poor and STL had 2 INTs dropped thank god or we prob lose that game. Rex is what he is but Beck on the other hand has more mobility and more accurate according to some so why not try him?

[44ever]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

44 it's because we see what the future holds and with REX we know it's only a matter of time until he goes Sanchez on us and losses a game or 2. Yeah he's done a decent job but the last 2 games have been poor and STL had 2 INTs dropped thank god or we prob lose that game. Rex is what he is but Beck on the other hand has more mobility and more accurate according to some so why not try him?

According to some of Shanny's latest statements there is some evidence that we may in fact see Beck this season. If Rex can pull it together great! Some here are acting as if all we need to do is bare with Rex until we secure a franchise QB well, its been decades and we have not been able to do so so what makes anyone believe that it will happen soon?

Our time is now, Our window of opportunity is now, we need to know for sure that we have the right man in at QB now. I know we are 3-1 but that has more to do with our defense than anything else. We simply are not putting enough points on the board to compete in the later stages of the season.
(The way Rex is playing at this point)

His TD to INT/Fumble ratio is scary to say the least. I don't even want to get into his mobility issues...

I'll say it again, count on Beck playing this season.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by 44ever

Again, nobody is bitching but I understand your wanting to be on the side of the majority and ignore the obvious. If we need to kick 5-6 field goals to win a game when the opposing team scores zero touchdowns then Beck deserves a shot IMO.

If you just squeak by the Rams well... Lets wait and see what Shanny does, I would not be surprised to see a change at QB this season.

Before last weeks game one of the announcers said they went back and reviewed all our red zone plays against Dallas and our WR's where not getting any seperation and Rex had no one to throw to. I guess we could ask for him to force a throw or two but then people would bitch about his ints.

[fanarchist]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Before last weeks game one of the announcers said they went back and reviewed all our red zone plays against Dallas and our WR's where not getting any seperation and Rex had no one to throw to. I guess we could ask for him to force a throw or two but then people would bitch about his ints.

If your contention is that receivers aren't finding separation, therefore not giving Rex a open target to throw to, wouldn't you then feel more comfortable with a more athletic QB who can improvise with his legs?

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

nothing like Redskin fans when we are winning games. Instead of blasting him for the dallas game, how bout we make the field goal, instead of losing by two, we win by one. Damn, at 3-1 and people still bitch.

Probably has more to do with the way we win, than winning itself. Guess some people will never be satisfied unless we win every game convincingly.