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[SmootSmack]

Man, the backup QB really always is the "best player" on the team. "He can manifest throws from awkward positions..."

shakes head, walks away

[fanarchist]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Man, the backup QB really always is the "best player" on the team. "He can manifest throws from awkward positions..."

shakes head, walks away

I don't recall saying he was the "best player", just that there are indicators eluding to him being a better player than Rex. If you go back and watch the preseason film those throws are evident.

I'm simply making deliberate case to support a transition to Beck. I'd rather do that then throw out back handed remarks that ultimately amount to nothing.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by fanarchist

I don't recall saying he was the "best player", just that there are indicators eluding to him being a better player than Rex. If you go back and watch the preseason film those throws are evident.

I'm simply making deliberate case to support a transition to Beck. I'd rather do that then throw out back handed remarks that ultimately amount to nothing.

If you go back and watch Beck in the last preseason game, you have an argument for sticking with Grossman.

Man, we are 3-1 and people want to switch the QB. Amazing.

[fanarchist]

Originally Posted by Lotus

If you go back and watch Beck in the last preseason game, you have an argument for sticking with Grossman.

Man, we are 3-1 and people want to switch the QB. Amazing.

And watching the last 3 games I can build a strong case against "sticking with Rex". People seem to like bringing up that 4th and 3 corner route to Santana for a TD in the Cards game, using it as a microcosm for Rex's "gunslinger" attitude and the reason we were ultimately able to prevail. The way I see it, if Rex didn't throw those 2 early ints in the redzone, and we came away with 2 field goals instead, a field goal in that 4th and 3 scenario would have won you the game. Because of his lethargy in regards to decision making, and ball security, he put himself in a position where he was forced to try for the win in a circumstance that could have just as easily spelled disaster, and just as easily have been avoided. Granted he made the throw, and won the game. That I can't take away from him, but how many times have we seen the cards fall differently, and not in our favor. He operates ok within the confines of the system. When the line holds up, when the timing is on, when he can work off of play action, but mistakes even arise for him in those circumstances. He too often locks on to the first read in his progression which causes defenders to easily converge on the reciever, and also results in a slew of ints. He feels pressure where there is none which causes him to throw mistimed passes which again leads to more ints.

In the Dallas game. Yes he threw some good balls, but those balls tend to be to receivers who are sitting down, and running hitch routes into soft spots in cover 2 zone. Occationally he'll hit a guy running a drag, but mostly he's throwing to stationary targets. On the int to Sean Lee, he reads right, that was his first read, he sticks with that read too long, and comes back across the field to Fred Davis running a intermediate in. He is already in bracket coverage, and he doesn't recognize Sean Lee in middle zone floating in the direction of Davis. Rex releases the ball too late, and another int. That entire game he was anticipating pressure instead of keeping his gaze fixed downfield, and trying to make a play. That's ultimately what led to the fumble and the loss.

Much of the same in the Rams game. Only this time he threw 4 passes that could have led to easy ints. Luck was clearly on our side.

It's not a matter of the record for me. In all probability this team is not Superbowl bound this season. Rex's deficiencies will ultimately lead to losses this year. I want us to exhaust all options so there is no lingering doubt about the QB position in the offseason. We've seen what Rex can do, not just in these 7 games, but over the course of his career. His trends and inadequacies are the same as they were 5 years ago. Now I want to see what Beck can do.