McNabb, case study-coaching or talent at qb?

[MTK]

I can't help but think he may have lost his passion for the game once he got traded from Philly. He clearly hasn't been the same since.

[skinster]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I can't help but think he may have lost his passion for the game once he got traded from Philly. He clearly hasn't been the same since.

definite possibility, another thing I was thinking is that he's had so many surgeries and injuries, maybe they mounted up.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by skinster

definite possibility, another thing I was thinking is that he's had so many surgeries and injuries, maybe they mounted up.

McNabb really has been pretty healthy when compared to most NFL players.

I think like Matty said he is just going through the motions no real desire.

[skinster]

Originally Posted by mredskins

McNabb really has been pretty healthy when compared to most NFL players.

I think like Matty said he is just going through the motions no real desire.

just throwing it out there as a possibility. And considering his age, no he hasn't been healthy for most qbs. As an eagle, from 2004-2009 he only completed one season. From 2002-2009 he completed 2 seasons (2002 he played 10 games, 2005-9, 2006-10) The more you get injured in your career, the earlier your body will break down on you. Motivation probably has something to do with it, anxiety to prove himself on game day probably does also. And andy reid probably has alot to do with it.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I can't help but think he may have lost his passion for the game once he got traded from Philly. He clearly hasn't been the same since.

I second your theory.

[mlmpetert]

Ive been thinking about this for a long time but in the opposite way. Are some QB busts only bust because they were put into a situation that doesn’t take advantage of their strengths?

You got very well rounded qb’s that, during their prime, are likely going to be good no matter what type of system you put them in (think Farve, Cutler, Bledsoe).

Then you got guys that are really only suited towards certain type systems, and I agree and think McNabb would make a perfect case study of a guy that was put into a position to succeed early on and then forced to do things outside of his dominate strengths later in his career (although this isnt susposed to be the case in Minn). The offense in philly focused on McNabb’s strengths, not the other way around (maybe we should be giving madd props to Ron Rivera and not just Cam Newton?).

Then you also got QBs that are square pegs in round holes like Orton in Chicago (and hopefully Grossman), this list could also include Brad Johnson, Steve Young and Brees.

They seem to recruit guys and mold the offense around the QB more so in college then they do in the NFL, perhaps because regardless of the what type of QB you are if youre good enough to get drafted youre probably viewed as a very well rounded player. I got no problem with system QBs. I think their great. If Grossman and Beck are put in situations that will make them succeed, id rather have that then a awesome QB forced in a system that doesn’t really utilize their strengths as much as it could. So maybe the thinking should be, instead of whos the best qb, whos the best quarterback for my offense.

Although McNabb might be a old dog new trick type qb. I mean if you were to put Peyton Manning or Tom Brady in a completely new offense at this point in their careers would you really expect them to be great or even top 10 qbs?