Handful of Owners Resisting Parameters of New Deal

[Shadowbyte]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

EXACTLY!

The greedy American employee always wanting more money and forcing the owner to turn to cheap labor which has spawned the ever growing hord of South Americans jumping our boarders trespassing and taking the jobs from the American worker so they can send money home to South America to support their families leaving Americans with out jobs and income to support their families. The next thing we will hear is the owners moving their businesses to foreign countries in order to get away from the taxes and the next thing you know sweat shops.

Oh sorry.

At least 134 countries have laws setting the maximum length of the work week; the U.S. does not.

In the U.S., 85.8 percent of males and 66.5 percent of females work more than 40 hours per week.

According to the ILO, “Americans work 137 more hours per year than Japanese workers, 260 more hours per year than British workers, and 499 more hours per year than French workers.”

Using data by the U.S. BLS, the average productivity per American worker has increased 400% since 1950. One way to look at that is that it should only take one-quarter the work hours, or 11 hours per week, to afford the same standard of living as a worker in 1950 (or our standard of living should be 4 times higher). Is that the case? Obviously not. Someone is profiting, it’s just not the average American worker.

The U.S. is the Most Overworked Nation in the World

I'm sure you meant to say greedy corporations correct? If not, please provide some facts to back your "greedy American worker un-informed-statement"

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Shadowbyte

At least 134 countries have laws setting the maximum length of the work week; the U.S. does not.

In the U.S., 85.8 percent of males and 66.5 percent of females work more than 40 hours per week.

According to the ILO, “Americans work 137 more hours per year than Japanese workers, 260 more hours per year than British workers, and 499 more hours per year than French workers.”

Using data by the U.S. BLS, the average productivity per American worker has increased 400% since 1950. One way to look at that is that it should only take one-quarter the work hours, or 11 hours per week, to afford the same standard of living as a worker in 1950 (or our standard of living should be 4 times higher). Is that the case? Obviously not. Someone is profiting, it’s just not the average American worker.

The U.S. is the Most Overworked Nation in the World

I'm sure you meant to say greedy corporations correct? If not, please provide some facts to back your "greedy American worker un-informed-statement"

Funny thing is most of the "work" we do is sitting around the office. Usually people that are working more then 40 hours per week every week are procrastinating. Of course if you leave work early you look bad even if unlike your coworkers you actually finish your work when you're at work.

Then again there are people like doctors who are literally seeing patients all day and nurses who are pulling 12 hour shifts but I genuinely believe that a lot of the "work" we do is sitting in the office racking up hours.

Originally Posted by skinsnut

I don't like forcing owners to spend their revenue if they don't want to.
Outspending the competition is our biggest advantage.
Having that advantage removed by legal mandate is just plain wrong.

I'd be pissed if I owned a low revenue team, not having a choice of how much I spent?....ridiculous

I understand what you're saying but when you have owners like Bill Bidwell who is charging players for meals and putting chain locks around Gatorade refrigerators, well safe to say in some cases its necessary. Fans don't deserve that.

Also with respect to the Bidwell family Michael Bidwell (the son) has completely turned around the culture of that organization from penny pincher to honest competitor.

[Lotus]

Perhaps the owners are mostly happy with the currently discussed plan. Therefore perhaps we are reasonably close to a deal:

Report: Barely any owner opposition to proposed CBA - NFL - Yahoo! Sports

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Perhaps the owners are mostly happy with the currently discussed plan. Therefore perhaps we are reasonably close to a deal:

Report: Barely any owner opposition to proposed CBA - NFL - Yahoo! Sports

Yes I think it may soon be time for a new thread

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Funny thing is most of the "work" we do is sitting around the office. Usually people that are working more then 40 hours per week every week are procrastinating. O


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Wrong, you make an awful big assumption here.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Wrong, you make an awful big assumption here.

Have you not seen the stats of how much time is spent during the workday on non-work related activities?

For many American workers today, time's a wastin' - literally. According to a new survey by America Online and Salary.com, the average worker admits to frittering away 2.09 hours per 8 hour workday, not including lunch and scheduled break time. As a matter of practice, companies assume a certain amount of wasted time when determining employee pay. However, the America Online / Salary.com survey indicates that employees are wasting about twice as much time as their employers expect. Salary.com calculated that employers spend $759 billion per year on salaries for which real work was expected, but not actually performed.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Have you not seen the stats of how much time is spent during the workday on non-work related activities?

Oh you mean the stats from that survey payed for by "big business" oh please !Myself and thousands others like me are on standards from the time we get to work to the time we leave so don't throw some BS out there and think it applies to all.America on Line....(AOL) really???

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Oh you mean the stats from that survey payed for by "big business" oh please !Myself and thousands others like me are on standards from the time we get to work to the time we leave so don't throw some BS out there and think it applies to all.

I never said it applied to all. I made a point to say that there were exceptions. Sorry for striking a nerve especially when I said that. However I to know enough people to draw a reasonable conclusion on top of the "Big business" survey that there are many people in this country that are basically hour hogs. They will sit in the office for hours on end because it's easier to quantify time spent in the office then the actual amount of work completed.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

I never said it applied to all. I made a point to say that there were exceptions. Sorry for striking a nerve especially when I said that. However I to know enough people to draw a reasonable conclusion on top of the "Big business" survey that there are many people in this country that are basically hour hogs. They will sit in the office for hours on end because it's easier to quantify time spent then the actual amount of work completed.

To the extent that you think it does I disagree but I will admit it goes on.