2011 NFL Draft

SkinzWin · 03-23-2011, 08:40 PM

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Colin Kaepernick goes 36-for-38 at Nevada Pro Day | ProFootballTalk

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10 - Quinn
41 - Kaepernick

skinsfaninok · 03-23-2011, 09:03 PM

A.J. Green shrugs off report of low Wonderlic result - The Huddle: Football News from the NFL - USATODAY.com

skinsfaninok · 03-23-2011, 09:04 PM

This Kaepernick kid is the talk of sports radio in OKC, and Dallas.. I guess he may be moving up the boards fast.

SkinzWin · 03-23-2011, 10:06 PM

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This Kaepernick kid is the talk of sports radio in OKC, and Dallas.. I guess he may be moving up the boards fast.

You have to realize why don't you? It's because of me. I started talking about Von Miller awhile ago and he starts climbing the boards. Now I'm high on Kaepernick and he is rising up draft boards. I guess I need to keep my picks on the DL or we won't get any good picks. lol.

skinsfaninok · 03-23-2011, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinzWin

You have to realize why don't you? It's because of me. I started talking about Von Miller awhile ago and he starts climbing the boards. Now I'm high on Kaepernick and he is rising up draft boards. I guess I need to keep my picks on the DL or we won't get any good picks. lol.

as long as you have us 9-7 next year I'm good lol

CultBrennan59 · 03-24-2011, 12:31 AM

I want Nothing to do with Kaepernick, he's got awful accuracy and can't read defenses.

Shadowbyte · 03-24-2011, 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

A.J. Green shrugs off report of low Wonderlic result - The Huddle: Football News from the NFL - USATODAY.com

It's hard to put a lot of stock in the wonderlic scores. Especially since Quincy Carter scored twice as high as Dan Marino. Either a guy can play or he can't. I see Patrick Peterson scored a 9. Despite that he'll go in the top 5, and A.J and Julio will go in the top 15. Speaking of 15, Terry Bradshaw, Jim Kelly, Randall Cunningham scored 15 on their tests. Ryan Fitz Patrick scored 3 times as high, I'll leave it at that.

Masshole · 03-24-2011, 08:37 AM

I agree, AJ Green or Patrick Peterson's Wonderlic matters very little to almost nothing. Though it does make you wonder how they the necessary SAT scores to get into college if they don't test well. But I think there's definitely some strong evidence to show that it matters with quarterbacks. This article does a pretty good job of laying it out -

A Formula For Drafting QBs That Works: Rule of 26-27-60 - Hogs Haven

And re: Bradshaw, Kelly, Cunningham, etc

My guess is that the Wonderlic wasn't generally perceived to matter in those days, so when stud qb's like Marino and Bradshaw got presented with a bubble test, they probably didn't pay it much attention. These days it matters, and preparing for the Wonderlic as a qb is now a part of the draft preparation, including tutors and practice sessions. Much worse to score low on a test you've prepared for and that you know is important than when you don't think it matters.

Dirtbag59 · 03-24-2011, 10:23 AM

Bradshaw is not the type of QB you want to point to as to why the Wonderlic doesn't mater. If anything his career numbers validate the importance of the Wonderlic.

SkinzWin · 03-24-2011, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

I want Nothing to do with Kaepernick, he's got awful accuracy and can't read defenses.

You are so right! his 36-38 performance at pro day coupled with his 64.9% completion percentage as a senior this year was terrible! What was I thinking?!? It's not like he has improved every year as a 4 year starter, oh wait... HE HAS!!!

Just because you're still bitter about pineapple jesus getting the boot doesn't mean you have to sour things for everyone else. And unlike most of the other QB's in the draft that you probably like, Kaepernick has the speed and athleticism to bootleg out and around a breakdown on the play or if he can not read the defense correctly.

You can learn to read defenses. You can't learn speed and athleticism. He's got his head on straight, hard worker, someone is going to get a steal in the draft. I hope it is us.

If we draft Kaepernick I'm changing my username KaepKrusader.

MTK · 03-24-2011, 01:40 PM

Kaepernick at #10 anyone?

Colin Kaepernick may be making Cutler-like climb | ProFootballTalk

SkinzWin · 03-24-2011, 04:18 PM

I guess we are going to wind up having to trade up back into the first round to get Kaepernick. He won't go top 10 though IMO. I can see him as a mid to late first round after it all settles. These draft gurus get high on someone then low on them. They go up and down the draft boards like a horse on a merry-go-round. I would love to get this kid.

Or with all the talk about teams rumored to be wanting to trade up, trade down and use the mid to late round 1st on him. Then we have a lot more ammo to go get other holes to fill. I'm excited for the draft even if owners and players can't get their heads out their @$$es.

BuckSkin · 03-24-2011, 04:59 PM

KaepKrusader, what have you seen or heard about this kid that made you change your mind. For the past couple of months you made no apologies about Miller then Hudson with the second rd.

mlmdub130 · 03-24-2011, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Bradshaw is not the type of QB you want to point to as to why the Wonderlic doesn't mater. If anything his career numbers validate the importance of the Wonderlic.

jesus, no s. i never knew his numbers were that bad, his completion percentage is a joke..

Hog1 · 03-24-2011, 06:21 PM

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jesus, no s. i never knew his numbers were that bad, his completion percentage is a joke..

Does that say anything about the relationship of "the numbers" and winning?

03-23-2011, 09:03 PM	#692
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 38 Posts: 36,192	Re: 2011 NFL Draft A.J. Green shrugs off report of low Wonderlic result - The Huddle: Football News from the NFL - USATODAY.com __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

03-23-2011, 09:04 PM	#693
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 38 Posts: 36,192	Re: 2011 NFL Draft This Kaepernick kid is the talk of sports radio in OKC, and Dallas.. I guess he may be moving up the boards fast. __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

03-24-2011, 12:31 AM	#696
CultBrennan59 Pro Bowl Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 6,526	Re: 2011 NFL Draft I want Nothing to do with Kaepernick, he's got awful accuracy and can't read defenses. __________________ "Anyones better than Madieu Williams"

03-24-2011, 08:37 AM	#698
Masshole Camp Scrub Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Cambridge, MA Posts: 23	Re: 2011 NFL Draft I agree, AJ Green or Patrick Peterson's Wonderlic matters very little to almost nothing. Though it does make you wonder how they the necessary SAT scores to get into college if they don't test well. But I think there's definitely some strong evidence to show that it matters with quarterbacks. This article does a pretty good job of laying it out - A Formula For Drafting QBs That Works: Rule of 26-27-60 - Hogs Haven And re: Bradshaw, Kelly, Cunningham, etc My guess is that the Wonderlic wasn't generally perceived to matter in those days, so when stud qb's like Marino and Bradshaw got presented with a bubble test, they probably didn't pay it much attention. These days it matters, and preparing for the Wonderlic as a qb is now a part of the draft preparation, including tutors and practice sessions. Much worse to score low on a test you've prepared for and that you know is important than when you don't think it matters.

03-24-2011, 10:23 AM	#699
Dirtbag59 Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 40 Posts: 14,750	Re: 2011 NFL Draft Bradshaw is not the type of QB you want to point to as to why the Wonderlic doesn't mater. If anything his career numbers validate the importance of the Wonderlic. __________________ "It's nice to be important, but its more important to be nice." - Scooter "I feel like Dirtbag has been slowly and methodically trolling the board for a month or so now." - FRPLG

03-24-2011, 01:40 PM	#701
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03-24-2011, 04:18 PM	#702
SkinzWin Playmaker Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 3,543	Re: 2011 NFL Draft I guess we are going to wind up having to trade up back into the first round to get Kaepernick. He won't go top 10 though IMO. I can see him as a mid to late first round after it all settles. These draft gurus get high on someone then low on them. They go up and down the draft boards like a horse on a merry-go-round. I would love to get this kid. Or with all the talk about teams rumored to be wanting to trade up, trade down and use the mid to late round 1st on him. Then we have a lot more ammo to go get other holes to fill. I'm excited for the draft even if owners and players can't get their heads out their @$$es. __________________ Sean Taylor #21 a Redskin forever... Team Heinicke Fan Club punch it in - CEO SkinzWin - President FrenchSkin - VP of Global Operations ODUsmitty - Director of Cheerleader Fulfillment Meks - Director of Marketing

03-24-2011, 04:59 PM	#703
BuckSkin Special Teams Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Eastern Ohio Age: 56 Posts: 232	Re: 2011 NFL Draft KaepKrusader, what have you seen or heard about this kid that made you change your mind. For the past couple of months you made no apologies about Miller then Hudson with the second rd. __________________ "Any Nation willing to give up a little freedom, to gain a little security, will deserve neither, and lose both." -Benjamin Franklin

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