Report: Grossman Starting on Sunday

[sportscurmudgeon]

I have always been in the camp that says it is the lack of sufficient talent on the 2010 Redskins that has produced the "no playoffs status" this year. Coaches are not magicians; they are not miracle-workers.

Coaches - - particularly the good ones - - can look at their preferred "systems" and "schemes" when those systems/schemes are not working and make adaptations that better fit the talent shortage they are working with.

It is that kind of adaptation that I have not seen a whole lot of this year. And one thing that concerns me is the "my way or the highway" approach that seems to have taken root at Redskins Park. Yes, the coach has to be in charge and yes he has to be the leader. But there are leadership styles that include other forms of communication than "Do it, dammit!"

I do NOT want to see Mike Shanahan fired nor do I want to see him resign from his job. I would like for him to take a bit more of the blame/responsibility for the results of the 2010 season because there are things that are his fault (particularly since the consensus here is that he is the MOFO in charge of all football matters) such as:


1. You had to see on film that the OL in 2009 stunk in spades. You made a couple of moves to improve it - - drafting Williams, changing out Dockery, acquiring J. Brown/A. Hicks. Other than Trent Williams, it ain't all that much better. That is on Shanahan.


2. You had to notice from your film study that the WR corps on the 2009 team was "deficient". You made some moves to try to improve it - - J. Galloway, R. Williams, Armstrong. Out of all that, you have a marginal #3 WR in Armstrong and not much else. That is on Shanahan.


So, when might he admit that it was his mistakes and his misjudgments that failed to improve the team significantly in those areas. Those things were not Donovan McNabb's fault; they were not Albert Haynesworth's fault, they were not anyone's fault except for the guy who did not bring in enough raw talent to make sigmificant improvements to those units.

And if Danny Boy isn't making decisions anymore and Bruce Allen is making his contributions on the fiscal responsibility front, the number of "suspects" is narrow enough that we need not hire Sherlock Holmes to crack the case.

[THE TRUTH DETECTOR]

I was never a fan of Shanahan . In my view Shanahan only took this job to give his son a chance to be a head coach. Let's face it Kyle Shanahan's stock as a future head coach has taken a hit. Blood is thicker than water. This is all about blaming someone to protect his son. If anyone on this planet believes Rex Grossman gives any team on this planet a better chance to win you are nuts. Rex Grossman? I think the way Shanahan goes about business is disrespectful to the Redskin fanbase. We are not stupid . Maybe the only people impressed Shanny are all members of that terrible forum that is the official website of the Redskins. I love my Redskins but I want Shanny fired. I never wanted Mcnabb here. Classy dude but he is a Eagle.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by THE TRUTH DETECTOR

I was never a fan of Shanahan . In my view Shanahan only took this job to give his son a chance to be a head coach. Let's face it Kyle Shanahan's stock as a future head coach has taken a hit. Blood is thicker than water. This is all about blaming someone to protect his son. If anyone on this planet believes Rex Grossman gives any team on this planet a better chance to win you are nuts. Rex Grossman? I think the way Shanahan goes about business is disrespectful to the Redskin fanbase. We are not stupid . Maybe the only people impressed Shanny are all members of that terrible forum that is the official website of the Redskins. I love my Redskins but I want Shanny fired. I never wanted Mcnabb here. Classy dude but he is a Eagle.

How unbelievably absurd.

You want to bring in a new coach and start this all over again?

Remember, at the time of the hiring, Shanahan was the best option available. Gruden and Cowher didn't want the job. They're still in broadcasting, and have made no intentions clear that they even want to coach again. There isn't a head coach out there who would have turned this disaster of a franchise around in less than one year.

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by THE TRUTH DETECTOR

I was never a fan of Shanahan . In my view Shanahan only took this job to give his son a chance to be a head coach. Let's face it Kyle Shanahan's stock as a future head coach has taken a hit. Blood is thicker than water. This is all about blaming someone to protect his son. If anyone on this planet believes Rex Grossman gives any team on this planet a better chance to win you are nuts. Rex Grossman? I think the way Shanahan goes about business is disrespectful to the Redskin fanbase. We are not stupid . Maybe the only people impressed Shanny are all members of that terrible forum that is the official website of the Redskins. I love my Redskins but I want Shanny fired. I never wanted Mcnabb here. Classy dude but he is a Eagle.

How do you gather that Shanny only took this job to give his son a chance to be a head coach? To draw him from the #1 ranked offense in the league with weapons like Andre Johnson to a team with a perennially bad offense who can't move the ball well and can't get it done in the red zone? That helps your chances to be a head coach? Really? REALLY?!? I thought it was because they ARE related and wanted to work together.

The way Shanny goes about his business is NOT disrespectful to the fanbase. It is making players accountable for their actions and if they are not going to be the best player on the field, then they don't play, regardless of what their pedigree is.

YOU are stupid if you say that. YOU are the reason this fanbase has perpetually bad teams because you want a winning caliber team every year and call for the coach to be fired if you don't get it. If you thought Shanny could come in here in one year with Kyle and turn this team around into a winning team, you are nuts and you need to find a new team. No coach could do that with the mess they inherited thanks to Vinny. It is going to take several years of complete overhauling for this thing to get turned around.

Yes Shanny made some stupid PR calls, and said something things he should have gone in a different direction with instead, but with a team with this many problems and this many diva head case players I'd like to see you do it any better. No one is perfect. It blows my mind that some of you fans act like unless a coach does everything perfectly with a team with this many problems, he needs to get out. Ridiculous. Absolutely absurd.

[Bushead]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

I have always been in the camp that says it is the lack of sufficient talent on the 2010 Redskins that has produced the "no playoffs status" this year. Coaches are not magicians; they are not miracle-workers.

Coaches - - particularly the good ones - - can look at their preferred "systems" and "schemes" when those systems/schemes are not working and make adaptations that better fit the talent shortage they are working with.

It is that kind of adaptation that I have not seen a whole lot of this year. And one thing that concerns me is the "my way or the highway" approach that seems to have taken root at Redskins Park. Yes, the coach has to be in charge and yes he has to be the leader. But there are leadership styles that include other forms of communication than "Do it, dammit!"

I do NOT want to see Mike Shanahan fired nor do I want to see him resign from his job. I would like for him to take a bit more of the blame/responsibility for the results of the 2010 season because there are things that are his fault (particularly since the consensus here is that he is the MOFO in charge of all football matters) such as:


1. You had to see on film that the OL in 2009 stunk in spades. You made a couple of moves to improve it - - drafting Williams, changing out Dockery, acquiring J. Brown/A. Hicks. Other than Trent Williams, it ain't all that much better. That is on Shanahan.


2. You had to notice from your film study that the WR corps on the 2009 team was "deficient". You made some moves to try to improve it - - J. Galloway, R. Williams, Armstrong. Out of all that, you have a marginal #3 WR in Armstrong and not much else. That is on Shanahan.


So, when might he admit that it was his mistakes and his misjudgments that failed to improve the team significantly in those areas. Those things were not Donovan McNabb's fault; they were not Albert Haynesworth's fault, they were not anyone's fault except for the guy who did not bring in enough raw talent to make sigmificant improvements to those units.

And if Danny Boy isn't making decisions anymore and Bruce Allen is making his contributions on the fiscal responsibility front, the number of "suspects" is narrow enough that we need not hire Sherlock Holmes to crack the case.

There is no way, in one season, anyone was going to fix all the holes, including OL, RB, WR, QB (and that's offense alone!). He had to replace 4 offensive lineman. That is no easy task.