Big Al suspended for the remainder of season

[44 70 chip]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

This was a pissing contest from the jump. But more than anything, this drama, highlights Shanny's inability to manage an NFL team and high profile athletes in particular.

For all the talk of change, this team is wose off defesively, only 2 points per game better offensively, and appears to be poorly coached of late. Shanahan mishandled the Jason Campbell trade, he mishandled MacNabb, bungled "Derrick" Thomas, and the Haynesworth saga is well documented and will dog this coach for a long time, in my opinion.

Hi, your premis is that coddling and babying big name players leads to success (in a team sport where everyone has to work together), and your support for this conclusion is that the Redskins defense is bad right now...

Wow...

MS is in his first year, in a system that has suffered from 11 years of colossal Snyder brand "fantasy football" mismanagement.

He inherited an O-line devoid of a single worthy starter, a RB core that was/is used up, A WR core that suffers from Snyderrato picks, a D-line that that is suited to a 4-3 when he wants to run a 3-4... LB's suited to the 4-3 when he wants to run a 3-4, a terrible secondary... And then he had Dan Snyder pushing Donovan McNabb Willy Parker and Larry Johnson on him (Think about it for a minute before you scoff, when did Shanahan ever go after older running backs or veteran QB's via trade? He's always drafted them and pulled RB's out of no where, he may have signed off on them, but they still smell like every Dan Snyder fantasy football move pre Shanny).

[sportscurmudgeon]

Originally Posted by 44 70 chip

Hi, your premis is that coddling and babying big name players leads to success (in a team sport where everyone has to work together), and your support for this conclusion is that the Redskins defense is bad right now...

Wow...

MS is in his first year, in a system that has suffered from 11 years of colossal Snyder brand "fantasy football" mismanagement.

He inherited an O-line devoid of a single worthy starter, a RB core that was/is used up, A WR core that suffers from Snyderrato picks, a D-line that that is suited to a 4-3 when he wants to run a 3-4... LB's suited to the 4-3 when he wants to run a 3-4, a terrible secondary... And then he had Dan Snyder pushing Donovan McNabb Willy Parker and Larry Johnson on him (Think about it for a minute before you scoff, when did Shanahan ever go after older running backs or veteran QB's via trade? He's always drafted them and pulled RB's out of no where, he may have signed off on them, but they still smell like every Dan Snyder fantasy football move pre Shanny).

Agree with 99% of this...

However, Shanahan did go after Jake Plummer while in Denver - - and Plummer was hardly a wet-behind-the-ears rookie at the time. Since you asked...

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

Agree with 99% of this...

However, Shanahan did go after Jake Plummer while in Denver - - and Plummer was hardly a wet-behind-the-ears rookie at the time. Since you asked...

And the whole Browns D line (Gerard Warren, Courtney Brown, Ebenezer Ekuban and Michael Myers).

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by 44 70 chip

Hi, your premis is that coddling and babying big name players leads to success (in a team sport where everyone has to work together), and your support for this conclusion is that the Redskins defense is bad right now...

Wow...

MS is in his first year, in a system that has suffered from 11 years of colossal Snyder brand "fantasy football" mismanagement.

He inherited an O-line devoid of a single worthy starter, a RB core that was/is used up, A WR core that suffers from Snyderrato picks, a D-line that that is suited to a 4-3 when he wants to run a 3-4... LB's suited to the 4-3 when he wants to run a 3-4, a terrible secondary... And then he had Dan Snyder pushing Donovan McNabb Willy Parker and Larry Johnson on him (Think about it for a minute before you scoff, when did Shanahan ever go after older running backs or veteran QB's via trade? He's always drafted them and pulled RB's out of no where, he may have signed off on them, but they still smell like every Dan Snyder fantasy football move pre Shanny).

I can sign off on about 60% of this. I don't think McNabb, Parker and Johnson were Snyder moves. I wouldn't call our secondary (when healthy) terrible by any stretch.

I agree with the history of the past 11 years of mismanagement but in doing so you have to realize its going to take at least 2 full offseasons and by full I mean TRUE free agency plus drafts to change the roster to his vision. 2012 will probably be 'his' team, meaning a franchise QB, his style of RB, reliable WR and a strong OL. Right now we have none of these. This offseason we led the league in turnover but most of them were short term stopgap type deals. Even McNabb's deal means he won't be here past 2011. Its way too early to call the paint dry on Shanny's picture of this team.