Big Al suspended for the remainder of season

[mooby]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I really don't care if the guy goes out and has a couple drinks. John Riggins would go our and get drunk and so did Sonny Jurgenson and both are in the HOF.

Well I never said having a drink is bad, but when you are apparantly drunk at 1:30 in the morning and you have to be at practice in the morning, it doesn't create a good impression.

This ain't the 80's anymore, and Joe Gibbs is not our coach. He put up with it knowing Riggins would give his best on the field, and that is not something Haynesworth is known for. Our current head coach preaches accountability, responsibility, and practicing good before you can play. So why would you want to be out at 1:30 in the morning knowing you have to have a good practice in order to play? That just screams Haynesworth doesn't give a f.

Btw please don't compare Sonny Jurgensen and John Riggins to Albert Haynesworth. He may have the talent to be a HOFer, but he sure as hell doesn't have the right mentality. This isn't 20 years ago, and you can't just get away with behaving like an idiot and expecting people not to treat you like one.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by mooby

Well I never said having a drink is bad, but when you are apparantly drunk at 1:30 in the morning and you have to be at practice in the morning, it doesn't create a good impression.

This ain't the 80's anymore, and Joe Gibbs is not our coach. He put up with it knowing Riggins would give his best on the field, and that is not something Haynesworth is known for. Our current head coach preaches accountability, responsibility, and practicing good before you can play. So why would you want to be out at 1:30 in the morning knowing you have to have a good practice in order to play? That just screams Haynesworth doesn't give a f.

Btw please don't compare Sonny Jurgensen and John Riggins to Albert Haynesworth. He may have the talent to be a HOFer, but he sure as hell doesn't have the right mentality. This isn't 20 years ago, and you can't just get away with behaving like an idiot and expecting people not to treat you like one.

Do you honestly think I'm comparing those guys to AH?????????? C'mon.. And there is no proof that he was out that late. What I'm saying is it's not a big deal to go out and have a few drinks and be a professional athlete. I'd be willing to bet that AH wasn't the only guy to go out on Thurs. in the NFL. Get my point?

[mooby]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Do you honestly think I'm comparing those guys to AH?????????? C'mon.. And there is no proof that he was out that late. What I'm saying is it's not a big deal to go out and have a few drinks and be a professional athlete. I'd be willing to bet that AH wasn't the only guy to go out on Thurs. in the NFL. Get my point?

Look my whole point is this isn't the 80's anymore, and it's not the drink thing that matters, it's the whole staying out late and drinking thing that does. NFL guys drink during the season, that's completely obvious, but how many guys do you see out on a weeknight (not even a friday night) around midnight being plastered? I trust the guys' judgement who wrote in to Deadspin a lot more than I trust Haynesworth's. I'd bet that 90% or more of the players on our rosters were at home past midnight on a Thursday night, either sleeping or doing something not stupid like going out bar hopping to get your drink on.

Would you go bar hopping past midnight on a Thursday night if you had to be at work early the next morning?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by mooby

Look my whole point is this isn't the 80's anymore, and it's not the drink thing that matters, it's the whole staying out late and drinking thing that does. NFL guys drink during the season, that's completely obvious, but how many guys do you see out on a weeknight (not even a friday night) around midnight being plastered? I trust the guys' judgement who wrote in to Deadspin a lot more than I trust Haynesworth's. I'd bet that 90% or more of the players on our rosters were at home past midnight on a Thursday night, either sleeping or doing something not stupid like going out bar hopping to get your drink on.

Would you go bar hopping past midnight on a Thursday night if you had to be at work early the next morning?

Not now no. But when I was younger there were nights when I was out late. I personally don't believe any of the sources ( bartenders ) anymore than I believe AH.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

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Not now no. But when I was younger there were nights when I was out late. I personally don't believe any of the sources ( bartenders ) anymore than I believe AH.

Well I am young, and before I quit drinking I had done the same thing Haynesworth and other guys have, which is stay out late, get drunk, and go to work the next morning knowing I was making retarded decisions that could've cost me my job. The only difference between me and Haynesworth was that I got paid chump change compared to what he's making.

I honestly don't care what players do on their own time, as long as it isn't dealing drugs, going into a packed club and whippin' their gats out as a show of force, or w/e, basically anything that can get them in serious trouble. I'm not stupid, and I don't think that just because these guys are multi-millionaires it means that they behave like jehovah's witnesses. All I ask is that they show up to work on time, follow the coach's rules, and try to at least set a good example if you are a vet that the younger players might look up to.

@12thman: Like I just reiterated above, I'm not perceptive to the belief that all of the 53 guys on the roster are in bed by 9 pm to wake up bright and early to have a good practice like some of us. That much is obvious when there's pictures all over the web of guys like Portis/Moss/Taylor out drinking at prominent nightclubs in DC. I'm just saying, I don't agree with it, I think it's stupid, and the only way you can get away with it is if you are ready to go at practice the next morning. Haynesworth clearly wasn't, and it's just one in a long line of bad decisions made by him. I'm glad he's off the roster and will be out of our hair, because he's the only guy on the team that doesn't seem to get the big picture.

[12thMan]

[QUOTE=mooby;766675]Look my whole point is this isn't the 80's anymore, and it's not the drink thing that matters, it's the whole staying out late and drinking thing that does. NFL guys drink during the season, that's completely obvious, but how many guys do you see out on a weeknight (not even a friday night) around midnight being plastered? I trust the guys' judgement who wrote in to Deadspin a lot more than I trust Haynesworth's. I'd bet that 90% or more of the players on our rosters were at home past midnight on a Thursday night, either sleeping or doing something not stupid like going out bar hopping to get your drink on.

Would you go bar hopping past midnight on a Thursday night if you had to be at work early the next morning?[/QUOTE

Bro, I can assure you many Redskins are out and about during the week drinking, that would include a few coaches too.

I'm not sure what's the norm around the league these days, but Redskins players have always been a part of the night life in D.C.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Bro, I can assure you many Redskins are out and about during the week drinking, that would include a few coaches too.

Trust me I know all about players staying out late. Difference is the rest came to work ready to go the next morning, even if they were hurting. More importantly for too many years (saw it regularly during the Norv and Spurrier years) those who didn't come ready to play or practice got away with it with no repercussions. That cant fly if we want to ge successful. Albert insisted he had to do things his way to be ready to play. We let him and he ready. You want to be treated like a man, act like one

I'm not sure what's the norm around the league these days, but Redskins players have always been a part of the night life in D.C.[/QUOTE]