Who is most responsible for the Redskins loss?

[SBXVII]

I still think it's funny how everyone wants to blame just one person....."he's a witch, I know he's a witch..." lets burn Suisham.

lets forget:

JC's interception.
Landry's failure to be the stop gap.
Moore's failure to sit on the interception.
Sellers failure to secure the ball.
Suisham of course for failing to hit a 23 yrder.

Don't remember if JC's interception turned into a TD. Suish missing the kick only gave up 3 points. Yes it would have won the game. Yes it would have made it two scores to tie the game or win. However ....Landry gave up 7 points by biting on the double move and not being the last man standing. Moore gave up 7 points by not simply falling down and waiting to be tagged. and lastely Seller's failure to secure the ball eventually led to a FG. There are other's who should be more to blame for giving up more points then Suish.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I still think it's funny how everyone wants to blame just one person....."he's a witch, I know he's a witch..." lets burn Suisham.

lets forget:

JC's interception.
Landry's failure to be the stop gap.
Moore's failure to sit on the interception.
Sellers failure to secure the ball.
Suisham of course for failing to hit a 23 yrder.

Don't remember if JC's interception turned into a TD. Suish missing the kick only gave up 3 points. Yes it would have won the game. Yes it would have made it two scores to tie the game or win. However ....Landry gave up 7 points by biting on the double move and not being the last man standing. Moore gave up 7 points by not simply falling down and waiting to be tagged. and lastely Seller's failure to secure the ball eventually led to a FG. There are other's who should be more to blame for giving up more points then Suish.

The INT led to a missed FG and overtime. The missed FG from XP distance is inexcusable. Landry gave up 14 points by falling for the same move twice. Moore made the right move until he failed to cover up the ball when running in traffic. It would be stupid for him to lay down and wait to be touched.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

The INT led to a missed FG and overtime. The missed FG from XP distance is inexcusable. Landry gave up 14 points by falling for the same move twice. Moore made the right move until he failed to cover up the ball when running in traffic. It would be stupid for him to lay down and wait to be touched.

Yes it's crazy to think Moore should have simply laid down and waited to be touched. All most all players would have gotten up and tried to make a play. Yes he should have protected the ball better, but my point is had he simply dropped been touched we would still have the ball with decent field position and control of the clock. The team could eat up the clock and hopefully have scored or made a FG. Instead Moore runs around like a chicken with his head cut off trying to make the big play and as we know the Saints are not stupid. They knew that they needed to get the ball back. So they strip him of the ball and no one to stop them easy 7 points. Even the Sellers play, the ball should have been better protected. Most teams who get the ball first in over time win. The Saints were in panic mode. Intercept, strip the ball, do whatever is needed to get the ball back. Guess what? they did.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Yes it's crazy to think Moore should have simply laid down and waited to be touched. All most all players would have gotten up and tried to make a play. Yes he should have protected the ball better, but my point is had he simply dropped been touched we would still have the ball with decent field position and control of the clock. The team could eat up the clock and hopefully have scored or made a FG. Instead Moore runs around like a chicken with his head cut off trying to make the big play and as we know the Saints are not stupid. They knew that they needed to get the ball back. So they strip him of the ball and no one to stop them easy 7 points. Even the Sellers play, the ball should have been better protected. Most teams who get the ball first in over time win. The Saints were in panic mode. Intercept, strip the ball, do whatever is needed to get the ball back. Guess what? they did.

He's a safety, they make plays like that... safeties and CBs don't hit the ground and wait to be touched.. hell a lot of LBs don't. We want defensive scoring, you don't get that by laying down.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

He's a safety, they make plays like that... safeties and CBs don't hit the ground and wait to be touched.. hell a lot of LBs don't. We want defensive scoring, you don't get that by laying down.

Exactly. On that play the bigger disappointment was really Rogers who ran right by the guy that stripped the ball instead of laying a clean block on him.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Exactly. On that play the bigger disappointment was really Rogers who ran right by the guy that stripped the ball instead of laying a clean block on him.

Agreed, the whole group that started blocking for him let Meachem through. Moore does have to get that ball in closer/tighter though.

[skins89moss]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Exactly. On that play the bigger disappointment was really Rogers who ran right by the guy that stripped the ball instead of laying a clean block on him.

Yea you saw that crap to? Our defense was to busy trying to be the 1st one to the end zone, so they ran passed his ass. I posted a remark about that but I just saw your remark CRedskinsRule.

[skins89moss]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Yes it's crazy to think Moore should have simply laid down and waited to be touched. All most all players would have gotten up and tried to make a play. Yes he should have protected the ball better, but my point is had he simply dropped been touched we would still have the ball with decent field position and control of the clock. The team could eat up the clock and hopefully have scored or made a FG. Instead Moore runs around like a chicken with his head cut off trying to make the big play and as we know the Saints are not stupid. They knew that they needed to get the ball back. So they strip him of the ball and no one to stop them easy 7 points. Even the Sellers play, the ball should have been better protected. Most teams who get the ball first in over time win. The Saints were in panic mode. Intercept, strip the ball, do whatever is needed to get the ball back. Guess what? they did.

Let me say this I have seen that play at lest 15 times and everytime I look at how many Burgandy jersey ran right the F..k passed Robert Micheum instead of laying his dumbass out. Our defense must thought they were all running to the end zone but they forgot to block the 1st white jersey they see. I saw at least 4 Redskins run pass Micheum. That was some BS and I be bet Blache pointed that out to them.

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I still think it's funny how everyone wants to blame just one person....."he's a witch, I know he's a witch..." lets burn Suisham.

lets forget:

JC's interception.
Landry's failure to be the stop gap.
Moore's failure to sit on the interception.
Sellers failure to secure the ball.
Suisham of course for failing to hit a 23 yrder.

Don't remember if JC's interception turned into a TD. Suish missing the kick only gave up 3 points. Yes it would have won the game. Yes it would have made it two scores to tie the game or win. However ....Landry gave up 7 points by biting on the double move and not being the last man standing. Moore gave up 7 points by not simply falling down and waiting to be tagged. and lastely Seller's failure to secure the ball eventually led to a FG. There are other's who should be more to blame for giving up more points then Suish.

with all that said shushi was the only one who actually had the oportunity to kick a fg score three points and win the game, while it is a team game sometimes it comes down to that one play and within the past three games he has blown that chance twice

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I still think it's funny how everyone wants to blame just one person....."he's a witch, I know he's a witch..." lets burn Suisham.

People sure love themselves a scapegoat.

Suisham might be burned at the stake this week, but that won't take away from JC taking the ultimate fall for the entire season.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

People sure love themselves a scapegoat.

Suisham might be burned at the stake this week, but that won't take away from JC taking the ultimate fall for the entire season.

I think that the coaching staff and front office have taken some heat off of Campbell.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

I think that the coaching staff and front office have taken some heat off of Campbell.

I still have issues with JC but I'll agree he played admirably the last few games. Part of this is due to Lewis I think maybe using plays that will work best for JC.

I hate giving props to Cerrato but the last two draft classes have not been to bad. I would challenge that though by saying that he has been with the team for 9 yrs and only gets 2 draft classes right? He needs to go. Bring in a true GM who will tell DS to simply enjoy what he see's and stop meddling, and build this thing up right for years to come.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

People sure love themselves a scapegoat.

Suisham might be burned at the stake this week, but that won't take away from JC taking the ultimate fall for the entire season.

Scapegoat Suisham is. Supposedly they are bringing in 3 new kickers to try out today and supposedly whoever is the best of the 3 will knock off Suish. Laymens terms Suish is gone. Everyone gets what they want.

I'm not making excuses for Suish though. I agree he missed two important FG's in two important games. but to point the finger at one person is crazy. We might as well cut Landry also for falling for the double move twice and allowing the other team to put up 14 points. No FS should allow that.