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View Poll Results: What Position Should We Draft in the 2010 First Round
Offensive Lineman 159 75.36%
Running Back 2 0.95%
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Old 11-02-2009, 01:04 PM   #1
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Now rank them according to quality of play and see what you get. Just because a guy is taken in the first round it does not mean that he is worth it.
What the list tells me is that you either get a QB in the first round or some how a QB comes out of no where to be good. No way to judje the bottom steels. They just come from thin air.
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Old 11-02-2009, 02:46 PM   #2
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What the list tells me is that you either get a QB in the first round or some how a QB comes out of no where to be good. No way to judje the bottom steels. They just come from thin air.
No, it tells you that way too often QB's are over drafted. People fall in love with them and draft them too early. Guys like Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco, and Brian Brohm, get over drafted, meanwhile a guy like Chad Henne who is not much less talented and gets selected in the second. Everybody thinks that they are going to end up with the next Peyton Manning in the first round, when the reality is that they are more than likely going to end up with the next Jamarcus Russell, Brady Quinn, Vince Young, Matt Leinart, Jay Cutler, Alex Smith, Aaron Rogers, or Jason Campbell. I think that it is safe to say that only one of those names (maybe 2) were actually worth a first round selection. Neither was the first QB taken in the draft either. Joe Gibbs once said that if you can protect the QB, then there are about 26 guys who can play in this league, if you cannot protect them there are only about 5. I paraphrased because I didn’t want to screw his words up. Needless to say if you look at previous draft history you can find some 2nd-6th rounders that you can develop into solid starters that might be as effective as or better than 1st round draft picks at the QB position.

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No, it tells you that way too often QB's are over drafted. People fall in love with them and draft them too early. Guys like Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco, and Brian Brohm, get over drafted, meanwhile a guy like Chad Henne who is not much less talented and gets selected in the second. Everybody thinks that they are going to end up with the next Peyton Manning in the first round, when the reality is that they are more than likely going to end up with the next Jamarcus Russell, Brady Quinn, Vince Young, Matt Leinart, Jay Cutler, Alex Smith, Aaron Rogers, or Jason Campbell. I think that it is safe to say that only one of those names (maybe 2) were actually worth a first round selection. Neither was the first QB taken in the draft either. Joe Gibbs once said that if you can protect the QB, then there are about 26 guys who can play in this league, if you cannot protect them there are only about 5. I paraphrased because I didn’t want to screw his words up. Needless to say if you look at previous draft history you can find some 2nd-6th rounders that you can develop into solid starters that might be as effective as or better than 1st round draft picks at the QB position.

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I cant believe you put Cutler and Rogers in that list. They are worlds ahead of them. Yes you are right thats why you have to keep taking chances till you get one.
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I cant believe you put Cutler and Rogers in that list. They are worlds ahead of them. Yes you are right thats why you have to keep taking chances till you get one.
I added all QB's in the past 4 years because I didn't want to try and smoke and mirror my point. My point was that in 4 years only 2 QB's came out of the Draft that were actually worthy of a 1st round pick. Saying 2 might be pushing it because Jay cutler isn't looking so hot right now, but we shall give him the benefit of the doubt.

Looking at the numbers for offensive tackles though through the last several drafts though you will notice that offensive Tackles are a safer 1st round pick. More of them tend to pan out than QB's do.

Now I am not completely against taking a QB in the first round, but to do so, I must have a solid offensive line from Tackle to Tackle. Right now the Skins do not have a solid offensive line, so to put a first round QB behind it regardless of his talent level is a recipe for disaster. You do not want to waste a first round pick on a guy that will not be able to stay healthy because your line sucks.

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I added all QB's in the past 4 years because I didn't want to try and smoke and mirror my point. My point was that in 4 years only 2 QB's came out of the Draft that were actually worthy of a 1st round pick. Saying 2 might be pushing it because Jay cutler isn't looking so hot right now, but we shall give him the benefit of the doubt.

Looking at the numbers for offensive tackles though through the last several drafts though you will notice that offensive Tackles are a safer 1st round pick. More of them tend to pan out than QB's do.

Now I am not completely against taking a QB in the first round, but to do so, I must have a solid offensive line from Tackle to Tackle. Right now the Skins do not have a solid offensive line, so to put a first round QB behind it regardless of his talent level is a recipe for disaster. You do not want to waste a first round pick on a guy that will not be able to stay healthy because your line sucks.

National Football League: NFL Draft History Full Draft - by Position
This is why we should go OT. If we swing and miss on a top-5 QB, it will set the franchise back at least 5 years. We are already one hell of a lot closer to being the Detroit Lions than the Atlanta Falcons. The Falcons have given Matt Ryan an adequate offensive line and an outstanding running game. Detroit threw Stafford to the wolves behind their poor O-line and got him injured after only 5 games.
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