Defense = Disappointment

[Chico23231]

The absolute bottom line is the offense needs to produce. Point-blank, thats it, no excuses. Everybody, JC, Zorn, recievers, line. That performance yesterday was garbage. Plain and simple. Everyone who plays O deserves to shoulder the blame. The excuses of JC under another new offense, Zorn is a first year head coach he will improve, the oline will be better, all that is gone. The offense should be better than last year. In order to win in this division is you got to score. Anybody see the points Cowboys and Eagles scored yesterday? The mistakes have to end or Zorn and Campbell are gone-bottom line and thats not my opinion, that is reality. Snyder isnt going to wait on Zorn. Now everyone wants to point fingers at the Defense. I have a sh*t-ton more faith in Blache and the Defensive than Zorn and the Offensive. That secondary is basically the same from last year when the Defense was 4th in the league and our D-line players have greatly improved. Now the D didnt play great yesterday BUT they provided opportunities for the crap offense and they did NOTHING. I dont need to provide stats to back up what I saw yesterday on offense, anybody who watched saw we were shut down. Toss that game ending touchdown out the window, that is not a factor. We are only as good as a last game. Not too good.

[Trample the Elderly]

Taken from the Skins blog. Positives
solid work from some of the less-heralded defenders, including Lorenzo Alexander, Rocky McIntosh, and Reed Doughty
That's right, Reed Doughty. Recognize!

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

Taken from the Skins blog. Positives
solid work from some of the less-heralded defenders, including Lorenzo Alexander, Rocky McIntosh, and Reed Doughty
That's right, Reed Doughty. Recognize!

People aren't bashing Doughty nearly as much as they use to are they? He's solid in there. A bright spot.

[RedBar]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

The absolute bottom line is the offense needs to produce. Point-blank, thats it, no excuses. Everybody, JC, Zorn, recievers, line. That performance yesterday was garbage. Plain and simple. Everyone who plays O deserves to shoulder the blame. The excuses of JC under another new offense, Zorn is a first year head coach he will improve, the oline will be better, all that is gone. The offense should be better than last year. In order to win in this division is you got to score. Anybody see the points Cowboys and Eagles scored yesterday? The mistakes have to end or Zorn and Campbell are gone-bottom line and thats not my opinion, that is reality. Snyder isnt going to wait on Zorn. Now everyone wants to point fingers at the Defense. I have a sh*t-ton more faith in Blache and the Defensive than Zorn and the Offensive. That secondary is basically the same from last year when the Defense was 4th in the league and our D-line players have greatly improved. Now the D didnt play great yesterday BUT they provided opportunities for the crap offense and they did NOTHING. I dont need to provide stats to back up what I saw yesterday on offense, anybody who watched saw we were shut down. Toss that game ending touchdown out the window, that is not a factor. We are only as good as a last game. Not too good.

I could not agree more. Defense certainly needs to improve and I am starting to worry about D Hall, tackling was god awful, but defense is also played best with emotion it is almost about emotion, that is why guys like Ray Lewis and Mike Singletary look like they are half cocked and the offensive stars like Joe Montana, Tom Brady tend to be more controlled. That being said the offense has to do a little better imo with their drives especially following turnovers especially turnovers deep in the opponents territory. It is hard to play motivated football when you scratch and claw for a stop or a turnover and the offense keeps letting the opportunities go. (It does however provide fuel for guys who hate our defense to say hey if you'd have gotten one more stop or one more turnover at the end we could have won. You know the kind of guy I'm talking about. All around sub par performance though.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by RedBar

I could not agree more. Defense certainly needs to improve and I am starting to worry about D Hall, tackling was god awful, but defense is also played best with emotion it is almost about emotion, that is why guys like Ray Lewis and Mike Singletary look like they are half cocked and the offensive stars like Joe Montana, Tom Brady tend to be more controlled. That being said the offense has to do a little better imo with their drives especially following turnovers especially turnovers deep in the opponents territory. It is hard to play motivated football when you scratch and claw for a stop or a turnover and the offense keeps letting the opportunities go. (It does however provide fuel for guys who hate our defense to say hey if you'd have gotten one more stop or one more turnover at the end we could have won. You know the kind of guy I'm talking about. All around sub par performance though.

Do you think there is growing animosity between the offense and defense, or has it not gotten to that point?

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Do you think there is growing animosity between the offense and defense, or has it not gotten to that point?

To be honest the Skins have some pretty high character guys in the locker room, I dont think it will get to that point. I think Blache would kick someone's ass if they even hinted at it. That is one thing Snyder has done in the FO is get players who are not problems or have character issues which is a positive unlike the Cowgirls or Bengals.

[GridIron26]

I hope they are going to do this alot through out 4 quarters, not just few selective plays..

Redskins Insider - Expect Corners to Get Closer to Receivers

[dmvskinzfan08]

and to add this to the arguement with the cowgirl up there. Haynesworth was instrumental in that goal line stop and also in forcing the Giants to kick a field goal. So if anyone played solid on the line he did. As far as the DE's that's a different story.

We definitely need to put Orakpo on the front line. People are saying stopping the run is his issue. But the starters look even more suspect and they are seasoned vets. I think his speed woul dbe crucial on the edge. Not just to get to QBs. But also to stop running backs running to the outside.

I think our LBs played pretty well besides him.

[GridIron26]

Originally Posted by dmvskinzfan08

and to add this to the arguement with the cowgirl up there. Haynesworth was instrumental in that goal line stop and also in forcing the Giants to kick a field goal. So if anyone played solid on the line he did. As far as the DE's that's a different story.

We definitely need to put Orakpo on the front line. People are saying stopping the run is his issue. But the starters look even more suspect and they are seasoned vets. I think his speed woul dbe crucial on the edge. Not just to get to QBs. But also to stop running backs running to the outside.

I think our LBs played pretty well besides him.

It was first game and he's a rookie.. We should expect to see something like this, especially when he played as DE in Texas.. I'm pretty sure coaches know what to do, they said that they are impressed with him.. He's just learning; if they think that they should let Orakpo move back to DE, then they would do it..

However, I'm advocating for coaches to let him move back to DE next year when we have a chance to draft 1st or 2nd rounder LB to takeover the position..

[dmvskinzfan08]

Originally Posted by GridIron26

It was first game and he's a rookie.. We should expect to see something like this, especially when he played as DE in Texas.. I'm pretty sure coaches know what to do, they said that they are impressed with him.. He's just learning; if they think that they should let Orakpo move back to DE, then they would do it..

However, I'm advocating for coaches to let him move back to DE next year when we have a chance to draft 1st or 2nd rounder LB to takeover the position..

Sounds good. But I am questioning Blatche and Zorn on play calls and personel usage. I read something on the Redskins blog about Blatche saying the corners will play closer this game. Ummm did it take him all this time to realize this????

On another note. Is it Blatche or Blache? Is he related to Andray Blatche of the Wizards?..lol. Just kidding.