can WE now start a countdown to a new coach and qb

[GTripp0012]

I'm not normally one to jump on Zorn, but unquestionably, the biggest matchup advantage we had all game long was our 2nd, 3rd, and 4th receivers, against a gaggle of poor defensive backs who barely should be in the league. What did we do? We ran the ball into the teeth of their defense.

If Zorn's going to play like that, he needs the quarters to be 40 minutes each. Otherwise, he wastes half the game running Portis into no space.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I'm not normally one to jump on Zorn, but unquestionably, the biggest matchup advantage we had all game long was our 2nd, 3rd, and 4th receivers, against a gaggle of poor defensive backs who barely should be in the league. What did we do? We ran the ball into the teeth of their defense.

If Zorn's going to play like that, he needs the quarters to be 40 minutes each. Otherwise, he wastes half the game running Portis into no space.

The problem was we stopped running the ball and they didn't. They averaged 3.3 yards per run and we averaged 4.0 yards per run. You don't give 16 touches to Clinton. This whole Betts on third down needs to be scrapped. I mean he was for -1 yards for god sake. I would rather take my chances with CP breaking one than Betts.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by saden1

The problem was we stopped running the ball and they didn't. They averaged 3.3 yards per run and we averaged 4.0 yards per run. You don't give 16 touches to Clinton. This whole Betts on third down needs to be scrapped. I mean he was for -1 yards for god sake. I would rather take my chances with CP breaking one than Betts.

We stopped running the ball? Really?

When Clinton Portis got his 16th carry, Campbell had 18 pass attempts. Exactly what are you supposed to do when he's plunging into the line for a yard per play?

We put the ball in Campbell's hands, and scored rather easily. They were very understaffed in the secondary.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

We stopped running the ball? Really?

When Clinton Portis got his 16th carry, Campbell had 18 pass attempts. Exactly what are you supposed to do when he's plunging into the line for a yard per play?

We put the ball in Campbell's hands, and scored rather easily. They were very understaffed in the secondary.

Yeah, they were playing soft because the game by that time was won. You need to pound the ball with CP early and often and get Betts off the field.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by saden1

Yeah, they were playing soft because the game by that time was won. You need to pound the ball with CP early and often and get Betts off the field.

You do know Betts got a single carry, and that was an audible at the line itself?

Pounding Portis = wasting plays. Some defenses let you have your way with 7 in the box. The Giants only used 7 in the box, but they won the one on ones all day.

[roth74va]

Originally Posted by saden1

You need to pound the ball with CP early and often and get Betts off the field.

What game were you watching, CP couldnt do squat outside of the first run. I can help but think that has something to do with him not playing in the preseason....and our O-line is pathetic.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by roth74va

What game were you watching, CP couldnt do squat outside of the first run. I can help but think that has something to do with him not playing in the preseason....and our O-line is pathetic.

I was watching the game and to me it seemed like CP didn't get many touches. He broke a big one, no reason to believe he can't do it again. Skins abandoned the run. They certainly didn't.

[roth74va]

Originally Posted by saden1

I was watching the game and to me it seemed like CP didn't get many touches. He broke a big one, no reason to believe he can't do it again. Skins abandoned the run. They certainly didn't.

Dude your tripping, all CP all the time!!! Anyone got the stats how many carries he had in the first half, and subtract the 1st carry, it isnt gonna be pretty. I dont think its all his fault, the O-line was pathetic, but he had his chances thats for sure! And once your losing by multiple scores you gotta start throwing the ball!!!

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

We stopped running the ball? Really?

When Clinton Portis got his 16th carry, Campbell had 18 pass attempts. Exactly what are you supposed to do when he's plunging into the line for a yard per play?

We put the ball in Campbell's hands, and scored rather easily. They were very understaffed in the secondary.

Running Left was.....inconsistent. Run right was a......disaster. Except for the mercy TD late, the passing game did not get it done. We have some work to do to say the least.
I think the best thing to come of it is the realization that we do not need a tremendous Offensive showing to be in these games.
Our D had us in it. They allowed 17? against one of the best teams in the league and probably the BEST O-line. That could have been......MUCH worse.....HTTR

[wilsowilso]

Originally Posted by saden1

The problem was we stopped running the ball and they didn't. They averaged 3.3 yards per run and we averaged 4.0 yards per run. You don't give 16 touches to Clinton. This whole Betts on third down needs to be scrapped. I mean he was for -1 yards for god sake. I would rather take my chances with CP breaking one than Betts.

Nope. Clinton Portis averaged under 2.0 yards per rush after the first run of the game. I think he played really really medicore football today.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by wilsowilso

Nope. Clinton Portis averaged under 2.0 yards per rush after the first run of the game. I think he played really really medicore football today.

Don't care, and for explanation see A. Perterson. The game is about breaking a big run and he did. I would take my chances with CP thank you. Running the ball even for 2/3 yards gets the defense more tired and in the long run it pays off. Zorn got out-coached plain and simple.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by saden1

Don't care, and for explanation see A. Perterson. The game is about breaking a big run and he did. I would take my chances with CP thank you. Running the ball even for 2/3 yards gets the defense more tired and in the long run it pays off. Zorn got out-coached plain and simple.

Obviously the game is really about taking knees. The team that takes the most knees wins like 98% of the time.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Obviously the game is really about taking knees. The team that takes the most knees wins like 98% of the time.

If only that worked in the first 3qts of the game.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by saden1

If only that worked in the first 3qts of the game.

You mean like running Portis?

[GMScud]

I lay this loss solely on playcalling. Not too many people are going to run all over the Giants with their line this year. We needed to sling it more and be more choosy with when/how often we ran.