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Old 07-06-2009, 08:59 PM   #1
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Re: Colt Brennan Says He'll "Play A Ton" In The Preseason

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Baltimore scored 214 pts their last 8 games. thats over 25 pts a game on avg. So obviousley the QB was getting his team in position to score. Like when Collins took over and led us to the playoffs,he wasnt having monster games yet we avg'd 20+ points a game with him at the helm. Same team that was left for dead with JC under Center.

How does scoring 214 points prove that the QB put them in position to score? Most of those points didn't come from the QB throwing TDS. You forgot to state how many of the points came from defensive turnovers.

Remember skins had zero points from defensive turnovers in all 16 games. Maybe 2 TDs from defensive turnovers could have been the difference from being 10-6 compared to 8-8. That really one of the main difference between the skins and the other teams with mediocre QB play who made the playoffs
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Old 07-06-2009, 09:07 PM   #2
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How does scoring 214 points prove that the QB put them in position to score? Most of those points didn't come from the QB throwing TDS. You forgot to state how many of the points came from defensive turnovers.

Remember skins had zero points from defensive turnovers in all 16 games. Maybe 2 TDs from defensive turnovers could have been the difference from being 10-6 compared to 8-8. That really one of the main difference between the skins and the other teams with mediocre QB play who made the playoffs
the point is that our defense put us in position to score, but JC or shuisham couldn't come thru, whereas flacco and the ravens could get some points
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Old 07-06-2009, 09:27 PM   #3
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the point is that our defense put us in position to score, but JC or shuisham couldn't come thru, whereas flacco and the ravens could get some points
There is this thing called consistency in making arguments which you don't seem to follow. You clearly stated...

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kerry collins is better than JC and he's really the only subpar QB o and flacco that i would consider..flacco had no receivers and still did great, he took chances and won games for the ravens..
Now you changed your argument from "Flacco won games for the Ravens", to "whereas Flacco and the Ravens could get some points". Now this is just a small portion of your argument that I can counter by using those "CRAAAZY" stats.

Here's a rough look at the 2008 Ravens and their performance against other teams. If Flacco indeed "won" games for the Ravens, then I am to assume that this means he produced points at the end of the game that directly led to the win (since to you the fact that they had an elite scoring defense doesn't mean crap to you).

Cincy – W – no 4th qtr TD
Clev – W – no 4th qtr TD (defense holds opponent to low score)
Pit – L – no TDs thrown
Ind – L – no TDs thrown
Mia – W – no 4th qtr TD (defense holds opponent to low score)
Oak – W – no 4th qtr TD (defense holds opponent to low score)
Clev – W – 4th qtr TD thrown (strong showing by offense)
Hou – W – blow out win (defense holds opponent to low score)
NYG – L – blowout loss – no 4th qtr TD thrown
Phil – W - 4th qtr TD thrown (strong showing by offense/defense)
Cin – W – blow out win (defense holds opponent to low score)
Was – W – 4th qtr TD thrown (defense holds opponent to low score)
Pit – L – no TDs thrown
Dal – W – 4th qtr TD thrown (strong showing by offense/defense)
Jax – W – no TDs thrown (defense holds opponent to low score)

I looked at 4th Qtr TDs thrown by Flacco (yes I know I am simplifying this a bit, disregarding his performance that indirectly resulted in points). Now, in the two games I bolded, Flacco did have a strong offensive showing, the opposing teams put up points against the Ravens, and the ability of Flacco to put up points on the board were important to the win.

However, in most of the other games, Flacco did not have to "win" the game as you put it, most of the time the Ravens defense held the opposing team under 14 pts.; and then there are those games where they lost.
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Old 07-06-2009, 09:35 PM   #4
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Re: Colt Brennan Says He'll "Play A Ton" In The Preseason

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the point is that our defense put us in position to score, but JC or shuisham couldn't come thru, whereas flacco and the ravens could get some points
No the point is the Bmore defense scored points and the skins didn't. That is why Ravens was still able to win without the QB throwing a ton of TDS whereas the skins struggled. That the real reason the were averaging 25 points a game.
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No the point is the Bmore defense scored points and the skins didn't. That is why Ravens was still able to win without the QB throwing a ton of TDS whereas the skins struggled. That the real reason the were averaging 25 points a game.
The Ravens Defense scored 25 pts a game??? WOW
Our defense was 4th in the league, and maybe they would make big plays if they werent on the field most of the game because our offense couldnt sustain drives thanks to Mr Checkdown.
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The Ravens Defense scored 25 pts a game??? WOW
Our defense was 4th in the league, and maybe they would make big plays if they werent on the field most of the game because our offense couldnt sustain drives thanks to Mr Checkdown.
Lol. You know I was talking about the team. A fourth ranked defense who couldn't score from defensive turnovers. The steelers and ravens defense didn't spend more time on the field than their offenses???
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Re: Colt Brennan Says He'll "Play A Ton" In The Preseason

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The Ravens Defense scored 25 pts a game??? WOW
Our defense was 4th in the league, and maybe they would make big plays if they werent on the field most of the game because our offense couldnt sustain drives thanks to Mr Checkdown.
Ok! The Redskins defense would score more if they were on the sidelines than if they were on the field! Sure!
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Ok! The Redskins defense would score more if they were on the sidelines than if they were on the field! Sure!
NO SH&& Sherlock, ofcourse a rested defense will play better than a defense thats on the field most of the game.
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NO SH&& Sherlock, ofcourse a rested defense will play better than a defense thats on the field most of the game.
There is not a shred of evidence to support the point that the Redskins defense would have scored more if it were more rested, especially since the defense finished at #4 in the league despite what you describe as conditions of fatigue. Can't admit that you said something dumb, can you?

So let's recap what we've learned tonight: Some Colt fans do not argue from evidence, or they cherry-pick their evidence by ignoring facts which contradict their claims. When caught red-handed making a foolish argument, they change the argument or respond with ad hominem attacks. Some Colt fans even wish harm on Redskin players. If these are the arguments for Colt then some Colt fans just make JC look better.
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