Eli Manning vs Jason Campbell

[ethat001]

Interceptions don't mean squat. Favre leads record books in interceptions -- and yet he's destined for the Hall of Fame and they are talking about Minnesota being considered as a Super Bowl contender if he comes back.

An interception rarely leads to a pick-six -- in fact, a deep interception is like a punt. We all know the fact that Jason Campbell has LESS interceptions means he was dumping it off instead of actually throwing downfield. I'd LOVE for Campbell to have more interceptions this year -- as a surrogate for him actually taking more chances & throwing downfield.

IN FACT, Tom Brady stats for most of his career: avg: 23-26 touchdowns, 12-14 interceptions. Statistics don't tell the whole story, but cannot be ignored. Sadly, Campbell has averaged less than a touchdown per game.

In the NFL, it's about winning. You win by points. Touchdowns clearly matter more. There's just no way you can compare Eli's stats with 60% more touchdowns and say they are similar.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by ethat001

Interceptions don't mean squat. Favre leads record books in interceptions -- and yet he's destined for the Hall of Fame and they are talking about Minnesota being considered as a Super Bowl contender if he comes back.

An interception rarely leads to a pick-six -- in fact, a deep interception is like a punt. We all know the fact that Jason Campbell has LESS interceptions means he was dumping it off instead of actually throwing downfield. I'd LOVE for Campbell to have more interceptions this year -- as a surrogate for him actually taking more chances & throwing downfield.

IN FACT, Tom Brady stats for most of his career: avg: 23-26 touchdowns, 12-14 interceptions. Statistics don't tell the whole story, but cannot be ignored. Sadly, Campbell has averaged less than a touchdown per game.

In the NFL, it's about winning. You win by points. Touchdowns clearly matter more. There's just no way you can compare Eli's stats with 60% more touchdowns and say they are similar.

I agree. 6 INTs is almost a negative when paired with only 13TDs. It's indicative of someone who plays scared and doesn't take chances.

I'd say it's close, but I give the edge to Eli. The skins blitzed the bejeezus out of Eli in the second game last year, and he threw for 305 yards (about 2 games worth of yardage for JC). Had nothing to do with his O line either. He anticipated the blitz, knew where to go with the ball and made pin-point passes before the defense could get to him. I remember being surprised how fast he was getting the ball off. The Skins took a chance Eli couldn't beat them, and it backfired. They were in his face all day, but he didn't hold onto the ball like JC has a tendency to do.

Also, I can't envision JC making a play like Eli did in the Super Bowl. I can't envision Eli doing it again either, but he did it when it mattered.

And as far as how Eli would do with the Skins personnel, I'd say he would do a couple games better than JC. We already saw what Todd Collins did the the same players JC had to work with.

All that said, I hope and think JC will have a big year, but the "haters" have every right to be critical of him. Irregarless of all the excuses, he's proven nothing yet.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

I agree. 6 INTs is almost a negative when paired with only 13TDs. It's indicative of someone who plays scared and doesn't take chances.

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All that said, I hope and think JC will have a big year, but the "haters" have every right to be critical of him. Irregarless of all the excuses, he's proven nothing yet.

You do realize your entire argument is predicated on the fact that we accept that interceptions are not bad things for an NFL Quarterbacks.

Note, that you did nothing to establish this fact. You offered an alternative suggestion that I've seen before, that 6 INTs is a high number given the circumstances, but it's also a lower number than pretty much anyone else in the league.

Chad Pennington was intercepted 7 times while being ultra cautious as quarterback of the Dolphins in the regular season. Now, according to your argument above, you must also think that 7 was too many INTs. After all, he only threw 19 TDs, so maybe he should have been chucking more and ducking less. Right?