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Old 04-24-2009, 03:06 PM   #1
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You had it right with your first center.
alex mack is my favorite player in the entire draft. if the draft went my way he would be #1 overall

he is, IMO, the best player in the entire draft and the safest, surest pick

very smart, very quick, strong, and has great hands

hes tall but he blocks low and his first and second steps are faster than any other center in the draft

eric wood is probably a little stronger, and max unger is probably a little quicker, but there isnt a better talent overall in the draft

any of the top centers in the draft would be great for the redskins at either center or guard

mack
unger
wood
robinson
caldwell
luigs
newton

they could all help and most of them will be available when the redskins pick
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alex mack is my favorite player in the entire draft. if the draft went my way he would be #1 overall

he is, IMO, the best player in the entire draft and the safest, surest pick

very smart, very quick, strong, and has great hands

hes tall but he blocks low and his first and second steps are faster than any other center in the draft

eric wood is probably a little stronger, and max unger is probably a little quicker, but there isnt a better talent overall in the draft

any of the top centers in the draft would be great for the redskins at either center or guard

mack
unger
wood
robinson
caldwell
luigs
newton

they could all help and most of them will be available when the redskins pick
You sir are someone that gets it!! Mack is the smartest, baddest OL player in the draft. I guarantee that wherever he lands that he will make that OL much better overnight.
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Old 04-24-2009, 03:15 PM   #3
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alex mack is my favorite player in the entire draft. if the draft went my way he would be #1 overall

he is, IMO, the best player in the entire draft and the safest, surest pick
number 1 overall, why? You know he won't go that way so no need to draft him there
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hes tall but he blocks low and his first and second steps are faster than any other center in the draft
I'm sure that you've watched him more than me but I read that he gets up too tall as a con.. the faster off of the snap I have heard though
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number 1 overall, why? You know he won't go that way so no need to draft him there


I'm sure that you've watched him more than me but I read that he gets up too tall as a con.. the faster off of the snap I have heard though
I've watched him play for years here in Northern Cal. and all the stuff you hear from the experts is BS. I would goas far as saying that he could be the next Jim Otto. Read this:

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I've watched him play for years here in Northern Cal. and all the stuff you hear from the experts is BS. I would goas far as saying that he could be the next Jim Otto. Read this:

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I mean I follow, but if nobody else is going to make him a number 1 pick it'd be foolish to do so yourself, trade down, pick him up later, and somebody else
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number 1 overall, why? You know he won't go that way so no need to draft him there
in a few years when we look back at the draft and realize who were the best players to come out of the draft, we wont be looking at matthew stafford or brian orakpo or tyson jackson

im looking at the draft as if it were years ago. I think alex mack will have a better pro career than any other pick in the draft. I think he will be here in canton with me some day. the last center that i thought was as close in talent to mack was nick mangold out of ohio state. he also went in the first round and now is a huge reason why thomas jones made the pro bowl last year

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I'm sure that you've watched him more than me but I read that he gets up too tall as a con.. the faster off of the snap I have heard though
he is 6'4" but gets almost too low when he snaps the ball, he is a natural knee bender and he is very comfortable in his stance, if you've ever tried to put 1 hand down like a lineman and keep your head up, you'll realize how hard it is to do that for 5, 10, 15 seconds before the snap

then he takes his first step without moving his upper body, his second step is either a turn or a pull step and his 3rd step is when he starts his upward motion with his body, but by then he will either have made contact with his opponent or he will be in the open field, head hunting
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in a few years when we look back at the draft and realize who were the best players to come out of the draft, we wont be looking at matthew stafford or brian orakpo or tyson jackson

Who is we haha?

Did you move to the DC area so now you quasi-follow the skins? that's a guess but my best one

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Who is we haha?

Did you move to the DC area so now you quasi-follow the skins? that's a guess but my best one
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fwiw i was a huge colt brennan fan in college, he is arguably the best college QB of all time and didnt get credit for it because of the talent(or lack there of) in his conference. He was a much better QB than Timmy Chang(who set the record for most interceptions as well as several positive college records) who he actually replaced as hawaii's starting QB after chang went undrafted. Many consider brennan(or any hawaii QB) to be a system QB. i find that argument hard to swallow. I think brennan was asked to do something that many players probably couldnt do. and he did it better than any other QB has ever done. His transition to the pros was expected to be slow and tedious as indicated by his draft position.

He has a low release, which coupled with his shorter frame, makes his passes more likely to be tipped. His arm strength isnt elite, but his accuracy is and IMO he was a steal that late in the draft. He and Mike Hart RB, michigan were the 2 players i was looking forward to in the draft and they slipped so far that i forgot about them

i could go on but it seems like you guys have already had this argument

he was the main reason i came to this board; i wanted to see if you guys(redskins fans) thought he was any good or capable of carrying the/a team
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Old 04-25-2009, 01:04 AM   #9
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fwiw i was a huge colt brennan fan in college, he is arguably the best college QB of all time and didnt get credit for it because of the talent(or lack there of) in his conference. He was a much better QB than Timmy Chang(who set the record for most interceptions as well as several positive college records) who he actually replaced as hawaii's starting QB after chang went undrafted. Many consider brennan(or any hawaii QB) to be a system QB. i find that argument hard to swallow. I think brennan was asked to do something that many players probably couldnt do. and he did it better than any other QB has ever done. His transition to the pros was expected to be slow and tedious as indicated by his draft position.

He has a low release, which coupled with his shorter frame, makes his passes more likely to be tipped. His arm strength isnt elite, but his accuracy is and IMO he was a steal that late in the draft. He and Mike Hart RB, michigan were the 2 players i was looking forward to in the draft and they slipped so far that i forgot about them

i could go on but it seems like you guys have already had this argument

he was the main reason i came to this board; i wanted to see if you guys(redskins fans) thought he was any good or capable of carrying the/a team
He may get good enough to start. It'll take time IMO. You are right about his accuracy but his decision making needs serious work and that sidearm release is going to get him in trouble.

As for his college record, I really enjoyed watching him in college. However, the NFL is a very different animal and you can throw college stats out the window. If you don't believe me, I have 5 words: "Andre Ware and David Klingler."
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alex mack is my favorite player in the entire draft. if the draft went my way he would be #1 overall

he is, IMO, the best player in the entire draft and the safest, surest pick

very smart, very quick, strong, and has great hands

hes tall but he blocks low and his first and second steps are faster than any other center in the draft

eric wood is probably a little stronger, and max unger is probably a little quicker, but there isnt a better talent overall in the draft

any of the top centers in the draft would be great for the redskins at either center or guard

mack
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wood
robinson
caldwell
luigs
newton

they could all help and most of them will be available when the redskins pick
Wow, you're not even her a month and you came in on the Mack Wagon. Welcome aboard. Did you come to this conclusion by listening to others like myself or did you watch the Youtube of him tearing s**t up? We had it on here for a little while. If we couldn't draft down I'd take Mack over trading up to get Sanchez. I don't care if he's a center.
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Old 04-24-2009, 03:29 PM   #11
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Wow, you're not even her a month and you came in on the Mack Wagon. Welcome aboard. Did you come to this conclusion by listening to others like myself or did you watch the Youtube of him tearing s**t up? We had it on here for a little while. If we couldn't draft down I'd take Mack over trading up to get Sanchez. I don't care if he's a center.
lol i started the mack bandwagon
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lol i started the mack bandwagon
sfredskin might disagree with you there. He's been beating the A. Mack drum for months.
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sfredskin might disagree with you there. He's been beating the A. Mack drum for months.
ive watched him as much as i could since the beginning of the college football season. Im a Saints fan at heart and i know very little about the redskins as a whole so after the saints let jeff faine go, ive been looking at possible replacements and i realized alex mack was a very special player before all the mocks even came out

it really doesnt matter who started it, as long as macks name is being tossed around and hes getting credit that he rightfully deserves
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ive watched him as much as i could since the beginning of the college football season. Im a Saints fan at heart and i know very little about the redskins as a whole so after the saints let jeff faine go, ive been looking at possible replacements and i realized alex mack was a very special player before all the mocks even came out

it really doesnt matter who started it, as long as macks name is being tossed around and hes getting credit that he rightfully deserves
Saints fan? What's with the Redskins avatar then? Why not just use the Saints one?
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Saints fan? What's with the Redskins avatar then? Why not just use the Saints one?
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