Please Draft ??? at #13

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Well, well, well...look who's now speculating about Sanchez to the Rams

Rams Leaning Monroe . . . Or Sanchez? - NBC Sports Blogs

Whether or not St. Louis is interested, I suppose it would be foolish not to float the rumor given how much interest Sanchez has generated lately. It's no secret they're looking to move that pick. Might as well stir the pot a little for their own benefit.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Whether or not St. Louis is interested, I suppose it would be foolish not to float the rumor given how much interest Sanchez has generated lately. It's no secret they're looking to move that pick. Might as well stir the pot a little for their own benefit.

No doubt

On a somewhat related note, interesting piece here by JLC. According to Sanchez, he's been told he'd have to earn the #1 spot here. Which I think is a bit ridiculous. If you're going to take him, and especially if you're trading up to take him, because you think he's Matt Ryan then just hand him the keys from day one

Redskins Insider - Mark Sanchez Raves About His Redskins Visit

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

No doubt

On a somewhat related note, interesting piece here by JLC. According to Sanchez, he's been told he'd have to earn the #1 spot here. Which I think is a bit ridiculous. If you're going to take him, and especially if you're trading up to take him, because you think he's Matt Ryan then just hand him the keys from day one

Redskins Insider - Mark Sanchez Raves About His Redskins Visit

The whole situation just doesn't add up. This is just one more fact in a line of them that draw no clear path.

• All reports use the word "smitten" to describe Snyder's attitude towards Sanchez. It's been many decades since anyone has used that term, and yet, multiple outlets use it within a day or so? Sounds like a direct leak.
• We don't have a plethora of cap room, but we're supposedly trying to get in the top 5, where the rookie pool might end up exceeding our cap room.
• Jay Cutler. We chased him hard because we thought he was the missing piece. We didn't get him, and now it's Sanchez? Really?
• Cerrato pulled an eleventh hour trade down last year, and now were considering going up?
• No one in the Redskins organization has ever tried to squash these rumors at all. All Snyder has done is thrown gasoline on the fire. He might just be this short-sighted, or he might be wise enough to leverage his position. Prior evidence suggests he's probably just shortsighted.
• We've avoided adding pretty much any help in free agency after the Dockery signing, despite unexpectedly cutting Jason Taylor since then.
• We're frank enough to tell Sanchez where he stands with us, but we're okay going "behind" Campbell's back (I say "behind" because if it is a smokescreen, Campbell's in on it).
• Brian Orakpo might be a simultaneous smokescreen, or a last ditch attempt to divert attention from Sanchez.
• We can't even outbid other teams who need Sanchez' services far more than we do.

I don't know guys. This situation reeks of botched management. My best guess: the Skins were prepared to trade the farm for Sanchez, then got a grip and backed off, and are now using it as an elaborate smokescreen. An accidental smokescreen that looks perfectly executed because at one point, it was in fact plan A.

I'm thinking the allure of Mark Sanchez might have actually worn off before draft day. Who knows, if the draft was ten days ago, I think he's wearing B & G, and we're not picking in the first round next year.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

The whole situation just doesn't add up. This is just one more fact in a line of them that draw no clear path.

• All reports use the word "smitten" to describe Snyder's attitude towards Sanchez. It's been many decades since anyone has used that term, and yet, multiple outlets use it within a day or so? Sounds like a direct leak.
• We don't have a plethora of cap room, but we're supposedly trying to get in the top 5, where the rookie pool might end up exceeding our cap room.
• Jay Cutler. We chased him hard because we thought he was the missing piece. We didn't get him, and now it's Sanchez? Really?
• Cerrato pulled an eleventh hour trade down last year, and now were considering going up?
• No one in the Redskins organization has ever tried to squash these rumors at all. All Snyder has done is thrown gasoline on the fire. He might just be this short-sighted, or he might be wise enough to leverage his position. Prior evidence suggests he's probably just shortsighted.
• We've avoided adding pretty much any help in free agency after the Dockery signing, despite unexpectedly cutting Jason Taylor since then.
• We're frank enough to tell Sanchez where he stands with us, but we're okay going "behind" Campbell's back (I say "behind" because if it is a smokescreen, Campbell's in on it).
• Brian Orakpo might be a simultaneous smokescreen, or a last ditch attempt to divert attention from Sanchez.
• We can't even outbid other teams who need Sanchez' services far more than we do.

I don't know guys. This situation reeks of botched management. My best guess: the Skins were prepared to trade the farm for Sanchez, then got a grip and backed off, and are now using it as an elaborate smokescreen. An accidental smokescreen that looks perfectly executed because at one point, it was in fact plan A.

I'm thinking the allure of Mark Sanchez might have actually worn off before draft day. Who knows, if the draft was ten days ago, I think he's wearing B & G, and we're not picking in the first round next year.

Good post I especially agree with the last part of that. But who knows he could still be playing in the B & G and we aren't picking in the first round next year.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

The whole situation just doesn't add up. This is just one more fact in a line of them that draw no clear path.

• All reports use the word "smitten" to describe Snyder's attitude towards Sanchez. It's been many decades since anyone has used that term, and yet, multiple outlets use it within a day or so? Sounds like a direct leak.

• The term was used just a couple of years ago with us and Calvin Johnson
  
  

  We don't have a plethora of cap room, but we're supposedly trying to get in the top 5, where the rookie pool might end up exceeding our cap room.

  Not to mention a QB would be a the upper echelon of the rookie scale
  
  

  Jay Cutler. We chased him hard because we thought he was the missing piece. We didn't get him, and now it's Sanchez? Really?

  As simple as ABC (Anyone But Campbell...or Always Bet on Colt)
  
  

  Cerrato pulled an eleventh hour trade down last year, and now were considering going up?

  Another trade down would be nice
  
  

  No one in the Redskins organization has ever tried to squash these rumors at all. All Snyder has done is thrown gasoline on the fire. He might just be this short-sighted, or he might be wise enough to leverage his position. Prior evidence suggests he's probably just shortsighted.

  What's the point of squashing them?
  
  

  We've avoided adding pretty much any help in free agency after the Dockery signing, despite unexpectedly cutting Jason Taylor since then.

  Not counting Haynesworth, or even Robert Thomas (to a lesser extent)? Or the guys we brought back?
  
  

  We're frank enough to tell Sanchez where he stands with us, but we're okay going "behind" Campbell's back (I say "behind" because if it is a smokescreen, Campbell's in on it).

  Campbell's our guy!!...until he's not
  
  

  Brian Orakpo might be a simultaneous smokescreen, or a last ditch attempt to divert attention from Sanchez.

  The one guy VC has been most open about is Orakpo, don't know if that's a good thing,k since the start of this whole draft stuff back in January
  
  

  We can't even outbid other teams who need Sanchez' services far more than we do.

We can...but probably shouldn't

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

What's the point of squashing them?

Well, what if we do want him, but at 13. And it gets to pick 11 or 12, and the Jets go up to get him because, even though there's no one between 11 and 17 that need a QB, they think we'll actually do it.

That's a successful smokescreen...but if they wanted him enough to grab him at 13, which seems to be the picture that Snyder is painting, cut the beast off at the head, and up your chance of getting him at your slot.

General draft logic says the Skins would only be acting this way if they really didn't care about Sanchez. But logic in general suggests that Jason Campbell is on the verge of something great, so I'm not sure any reasoning should be applied to this situation.

[skins89moss]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

The whole situation just doesn't add up. This is just one more fact in a line of them that draw no clear path.

• All reports use the word "smitten" to describe Snyder's attitude towards Sanchez. It's been many decades since anyone has used that term, and yet, multiple outlets use it within a day or so? Sounds like a direct leak.
• We don't have a plethora of cap room, but we're supposedly trying to get in the top 5, where the rookie pool might end up exceeding our cap room.
• Jay Cutler. We chased him hard because we thought he was the missing piece. We didn't get him, and now it's Sanchez? Really?
• Cerrato pulled an eleventh hour trade down last year, and now were considering going up?
• No one in the Redskins organization has ever tried to squash these rumors at all. All Snyder has done is thrown gasoline on the fire. He might just be this short-sighted, or he might be wise enough to leverage his position. Prior evidence suggests he's probably just shortsighted.
• We've avoided adding pretty much any help in free agency after the Dockery signing, despite unexpectedly cutting Jason Taylor since then.
• We're frank enough to tell Sanchez where he stands with us, but we're okay going "behind" Campbell's back (I say "behind" because if it is a smokescreen, Campbell's in on it).
• Brian Orakpo might be a simultaneous smokescreen, or a last ditch attempt to divert attention from Sanchez.
• We can't even outbid other teams who need Sanchez' services far more than we do.

I don't know guys. This situation reeks of botched management. My best guess: the Skins were prepared to trade the farm for Sanchez, then got a grip and backed off, and are now using it as an elaborate smokescreen. An accidental smokescreen that looks perfectly executed because at one point, it was in fact plan A.

I'm thinking the allure of Mark Sanchez might have actually worn off before draft day. Who knows, if the draft was ten days ago, I think he's wearing B & G, and we're not picking in the first round next year.

WoW thats some real heavy thinking you did to come up with that. Sounds about right from Redskins Front Office. We did give Dolphins a 2nd rd pick for J. Taylor ? We did release him after 1 season right? We did give the 49ers a 3rd pick for Brandon Lloyd and signed him to a new contract Right? We did bench Lloyd during the season and then gave him to the bears for a low pick. We also did the same thing with Archuletta Right? This is beginning to be common practice for us to waste money on bad free agents and give away draft picks.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by skins89moss

WoW thats some real heavy thinking you did to come up with that. Sounds about right from Redskins Front Office. We did give Dolphins a 2nd rd pick for J. Taylor ? We did release him after 1 season right? We did give the 49ers a 3rd pick for Brandon Lloyd and signed him to a new contract Right? We did bench Lloyd during the season and then gave him to the bears for a low pick. We also did the same thing with Archuletta Right? This is beginning to be common practice for us to waste money on bad free agents and give away draft picks.

We actually cut Lloyd

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

No doubt

On a somewhat related note, interesting piece here by JLC. According to Sanchez, he's been told he'd have to earn the #1 spot here. Which I think is a bit ridiculous. If you're going to take him, and especially if you're trading up to take him, because you think he's Matt Ryan then just hand him the keys from day one

Redskins Insider - Mark Sanchez Raves About His Redskins Visit

I agree that does seem a bit redunant but it wouldn't be the Redskins if everyone understood the logic behind what they do.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

No doubt

On a somewhat related note, interesting piece here by JLC. According to Sanchez, he's been told he'd have to earn the #1 spot here. Which I think is a bit ridiculous. If you're going to take him, and especially if you're trading up to take him, because you think he's Matt Ryan then just hand him the keys from day one

Redskins Insider - Mark Sanchez Raves About His Redskins Visit

Promising Sanchez the keys to the car from day one would basically cancel out Campbell. His trade value would plummet, and he'd likely walk after '09. Not to mention what it would do to the locker room. Snyder was just going status quo. With Campbell on the team, Sanchez would have to compete for the job. That's a no brainer. That doesn't mean Campbell couldn't be traded after drafting Sanchez. At least we're not tipping our hand in that regard. Currently, telling him anything other than what we are would be foolish. At this point I'd say it's possible (however unlikely), that we're running a good bluff.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Promising Sanchez the keys to the car from day one would basically cancel out Campbell. His trade value would plummet, and he'd likely walk after '09. Not to mention what it would do to the locker room. Snyder was just going status quo. With Campbell on the team, Sanchez would have to compete for the job. That's a no brainer. That doesn't mean Campbell couldn't be traded after drafting Sanchez. At least we're not tipping our hand in that regard. Currently, telling him anything other than what we are would be foolish. At this point I'd say it's possible (however unlikely), that we're running a good bluff.

Just trying to get everyone to sip the Kool-Aid I suppose, problem is we are the only ones drinking it.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Promising Sanchez the keys to the car from day one would basically cancel out Campbell. His trade value would plummet, and he'd likely walk after '09. Not to mention what it would do to the locker room. Snyder was just going status quo. With Campbell on the team, Sanchez would have to compete for the job. That's a no brainer. That doesn't mean Campbell couldn't be traded after drafting Sanchez. At least we're not tipping our hand in that regard. Currently, telling him anything other than what we are would be foolish. At this point I'd say it's possible (however unlikely), that we're running a good bluff.

If that's true, this is the first time in the month of April that Snyder stayed the status quo.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

If that's true, this is the first time in the month of April that Snyder stayed the status quo.

Not saying it will stay that way come Saturday, but for now, I'd say that's what we're doing with this particular situation. If I had to guess anyway.