A-Rod tests positive for steroids

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by GMScud

And? It creates doubt about if he was juicing while wearing the pinstripes. In '03 when he tested positive he hit 47 homers and won MVP. I'd say that's motivation to repeat the behavior.

A-Rod was the player who everyone said was the "natural." Ever since all this steroid crap game to light, how many times have you heard A-Rod applauded for being one of the few who does it all without juicing? He was supposed to be the guy who would take the taint (and asterisk) off the home run record when he breaks it. Not anymore.

Say "who cares" all you want guys. This is a big deal.

It's not a big deal cause everyone was doing it and steroids don't help you as much as you think it does. Why do people get so mad about this? The pitchers were doing it plus the pitchers cheated all the time. They scuff the balls, spit on the balls..they did all kind of stuff. But for some reason when the hitters do steroids everyone freaks the hell out. It's almost comical to me. Most people don't even really know how steriods work yet those are the first ones to call ARod a cheater.

Do you know how many football players currently take HGH? I'm going to guess it's a big number cause you can't test for it. Does that bother you? Do you know how many football players took steroids before they tested for it? Yet no one seems to care about football. Only baseball. Why?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

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It's not a big deal cause everyone was doing it and steroids don't help you as much as you think it does. Why do people get so mad about this? The pitchers were doing it plus the pitchers cheated all the time. They scuff the balls, spit on the balls..they did all kind of stuff. But for some reason when the hitters do steroids everyone freaks the hell out. It's almost comical to me. Most people don't even really know how steriods work yet those are the first ones to call ARod a cheater.

Do you know how many football players currently take HGH? I'm going to guess it's a big number cause you can't test for it. Does that bother you? Do you know how many football players took steroids before they tested for it? Yet no one seems to care about football. Only baseball. Why?

Not sure why you bolded everything but...

1. Everyone was doing it is a bit of an overstatement

2. I would agree that the pitchers were probably more guilty overall than batters

3. It "matters" more in baseball because baseball is much more about the history of the sport and the numbers attached to the sport. People don't care as much about 47 games as they do about 56 games. When those numbers are tainted it leaves a bad taste (or something like that)

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

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It's not a big deal cause everyone was doing it and steroids don't help you as much as you think it does. Why do people get so mad about this? The pitchers were doing it plus the pitchers cheated all the time. They scuff the balls, spit on the balls..they did all kind of stuff. But for some reason when the hitters do steroids everyone freaks the hell out. It's almost comical to me. Most people don't even really know how steriods work yet those are the first ones to call ARod a cheater.

Do you know how many football players currently take HGH? I'm going to guess it's a big number cause you can't test for it. Does that bother you? Do you know how many football players took steroids before they tested for it? Yet no one seems to care about football. Only baseball. Why?

It's a big enough deal for you to angrily make an entire post in bold letters. LOL!

Anyway, I respect your opinion. But my opinion is that when the best player in the game (and one of the greatest ever) tests positive for steroids, aka cheating, it's a big deal. Just like it would be a big deal if Johan Santana was scuffing balls, David Ortiz was using too much pine tar, or Albert Pujols was corking his bat.

Also, the Mitchell Report fiasco, Jose Canseco, and the precedent set by morons like McGwire, Palmeiro, and Clemens have turned stuff like this into a bigger deal. It's a total media circus. For the past two days you might as well have renamed ESPN the A-Roid Network. Hell, he was on the front page of the friggin Wall Street Journal. So yeah, it's a big deal.

Your question as to why people care more about performance enhancers in baseball than football is an interesting one. Maybe because baseball is a sport totally obsessed with it's own statistics, and steroids beef up (no pun intended) the stats? I don't know. I'm sure plenty of players all over the place take HGH, and that does bother me. But what am I gonna do, stop watching sports?

[Duffman003]

I'm angry at the baseball players who aren't taking steroids.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by Duffman003

I'm angry at the baseball players who aren't taking steroids.

There weren't many apparently.

[BDBohnzie]

Originally Posted by GMScud

David Ortiz was using too much pine tar

This made me LOL...too much pine tar...Who are you? Tim McClelland? Billy Martin?

Unfortunately in this day of 24/7 media, this is bound to be blown way out of proportion. Plus add on the fact that baseball is using these guys as a scapegoat, and trying to clean up their act after the fact.

Asterisk or not, this is an era of baseball. It's not a clean one, but it is what it is. Instead of trying to be angry at the past, go forward with a cleaner conscience. The fact that baseball had no penalties in place at the height of players taking Steroids goes to show you that the brass and players union either knew about it and turned a blind eye (while football continues to develop very strenuous testing) for the sake of rating and popularity, or the powers that be (Bud Selig, Donald Fehr) just don't know what in the hell they are doing.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by BDBohnzie

This made me LOL...too much pine tar...Who are you? Tim McClelland? Billy Martin?

Unfortunately in this day of 24/7 media, this is bound to be blown way out of proportion. Plus add on the fact that baseball is using these guys as a scapegoat, and trying to clean up their act after the fact.

Asterisk or not, this is an era of baseball. It's not a clean one, but it is what it is. Instead of trying to be angry at the past, go forward with a cleaner conscience. The fact that baseball had no penalties in place at the height of players taking Steroids goes to show you that the brass and players union either knew about it and turned a blind eye (while football continues to develop very strenuous testing) for the sake of rating and popularity, or the powers that be (Bud Selig, Donald Fehr) just don't know what in the hell they are doing.

Well, you kind of misquoted me- I said "IF David Ortiz was using too much pinetar...."

I don't disagree with you, especially the part about Fehr and Selig being idiots AND turning a blind eye to steroids. I'm not really "angry" at the past per se, I guess disappointed is a better word.

But in today's world, if anyone expected a mild reaction to A-Rod testing positive for steroids... Well, that's just not very realistic.

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

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It's not a big deal cause everyone was doing it

cal ripken jr wasnt doing em and thats one of many reasons why he gets shown so much respect.

but to a point i agree with you; if a roided up pitcher is throwing to a roided up batter, wheres the uncompetitive advantage? the only guy who gets screwed is the guy doing it the right way.

go skins!!