Our WRs in 2009... My Thoughts

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Why does Reid have confidence in McNabb(if he does) because he has been with him forever. I would think that the Eagles resurgence would give more proof that time and patience are what Zorn/Campbell needs, not a quick firing.

The Eagles went 11-5 in McNabb's first full season as a starter. Reid was in his second year in Philly.

McNabb had 21 TDs and 13 INTs that year and he rushed for 629 yards and 6 TDs.

Reid's teams have gone to the playoffs 11 times in 14 years as a head coach.

Campbell has 36 starts under his belt.

There were rookie coaches that had confidence in rookie QBs this year. If Zorn can't get creative on offense, because he doesn't have confidence in Campbell YET, then something's wrong and more games isn't going to fix it.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

The Eagles went 11-5 in McNabb's first full season as a starter. Reid was in his second year in Philly.

McNabb had 21 TDs and 13 INTs that year and he rushed for 629 yards and 6 TDs.

Reid's teams have gone to the playoffs 11 times in 14 years as a head coach.

Campbell has 36 starts under his belt.

There were rookie coaches that had confidence in rookie QBs this year. If Zorn can't get creative on offense, because he doesn't have confidence in Campbell YET, then something's wrong and more games isn't going to fix it.

I think you may have misunderstood what I was trying to say. I think Zorn had confidence in Campbell, and that is why we became more pass oriented. My point about time is that time brings "intimacy". A newly married couple may be confident in each other's love and have strong beliefs about how the other will act. BUT a couple who has been married 7 yrs or more have an intimacy of knowledge as to what each will do, and they work more as a unit (in a perfect world obviously).

That may not be a perfect analogy, and in football we are talking months not years, but as Zorn and Campbell work together, and the rest of the team around them, the depth and available options should only increase. Yes there have been some rookie hc's that were more successful, but I'm pretty sure I could with little effort cite examples of rookie hc's that were far less successful.

Finally, my main point was that in the Dan Snyder era, we have constantly changed system/coach/qb thus never letting the "intimacy" of a system develop. So if the Eagles win shows anything to Dan I would hope it would be that you don't have to scrap everything when you hit harder times.

For the record, McNabb may have gone 11-5 his first full year, but how many times has he failed in reaching the playoffs/superbowl; ask yourself, would the old Dan Snyder be patient with THAT number? Would Andy Reid still have a job? or what about Eli Manning and Tom Coughlin?

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I think you may have misunderstood what I was trying to say. I think Zorn had confidence in Campbell, and that is why we became more pass oriented. My point about time is that time brings "intimacy". A newly married couple may be confident in each other's love and have strong beliefs about how the other will act. BUT a couple who has been married 7 yrs or more have an intimacy of knowledge as to what each will do, and they work more as a unit (in a perfect world obviously).

That may not be a perfect analogy, and in football we are talking months not years, but as Zorn and Campbell work together, and the rest of the team around them, the depth and available options should only increase. Yes there have been some rookie hc's that were more successful, but I'm pretty sure I could with little effort cite examples of rookie hc's that were far less successful.

Finally, my main point was that in the Dan Snyder era, we have constantly changed system/coach/qb thus never letting the "intimacy" of a system develop. So if the Eagles win shows anything to Dan I would hope it would be that you don't have to scrap everything when you hit harder times.

For the record, McNabb may have gone 11-5 his first full year, but how many times has he failed in reaching the playoffs/superbowl; ask yourself, would the old Dan Snyder be patient with THAT number? Would Andy Reid still have a job? or what about Eli Manning and Tom Coughlin?

Not many times and yes, as bad an owner DS is, I think he'd be thrilled with Reid and McNabb's track record. McNabb went to 4 conference championships in a row and a Super Bowl. He's generally been a very productive QB and still takes as much or more criticism than Campbell.

But I hear you. DS has been a failure as an owner. I won't argue that.