Our WRs in 2009... My Thoughts

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Tj would be a great move, and I bet you could get him for a decent price also. He has to be tired of the BS in Cincy by now. At some point these guys do want a legacy, meaning a ring. He has no hope of that with Ocho Cinco and the oft injured Palmer. Marv Lewis sucks as a HC. Snyder did well in not giving him our HC position.

TJ is going to cost too much. If they can find a diamond in the rough, I say go for it. Look at what Tampa got out of Antonio Bryant this year. Otherwise, they need to work with what they've got.

The top WRs in the league will likely be watching the Super Bowl from home this year (just like the top cornerbacks). WRs, like most skill positions other than the QB, don't win championships. Good coaching, good line play and great defense is what it takes.

[Hail to the Redskins]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

TJ is going to cost too much. If they can find a diamond in the rough, I say go for it. Look at what Tampa got out of Antonio Bryant this year. Otherwise, they need to work with what they've got.

The top WRs in the league will likely be watching the Super Bowl from home this year (just like the top cornerbacks). WRs, like most skill positions other than the QB, don't win championships. Good coaching, good line play and great defense is what it takes.

So Randy Moss, Wes Welker (Moss makes defenses play softer allowing Welker to run our type routes underneath), & Burress watched the Super Bowl last year?

How about Reggie Wayne & Marvin Harrison? Plaxico Burress last year?

I totally agree that lines have to get you to a championship, BUT you have to have dependable receivers who can get open, make tough catches, especially around the endzone to WIN championships (Tyree's catch & Burress' TD comes to mind from last years SB)

I think our line needs DEPTH, but they proved for the first 8 weeks what they can do when the passing game is a least A LITTLE successful to keep other teams out of the box... I mean, Portis sets a record for consecutive 150 yard games midseason & now all of the sudden they are terrible.

I'll say again... it goes back to defenses making the adjustment to not play soft any more and let our little scat-type receivers get easy space off the line for their little 6-8 yard routes... they took those away and BAM, now no passing threat, pack the box, no more running game, no receivers open when Campbell plants back foot, etc.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by Hail to the Redskins

So Randy Moss, Wes Welker (Moss makes defenses play softer allowing Welker to run our type routes underneath), & Burress watched the Super Bowl last year?

How about Reggie Wayne & Marvin Harrison? Plaxico Burress last year?

I totally agree that lines have to get you to a championship, BUT you have to have dependable receivers who can get open, make tough catches, especially around the endzone to WIN championships (Tyree's catch & Burress' TD comes to mind from last years SB)

I think our line needs DEPTH, but they proved for the first 8 weeks what they can do when the passing game is a least A LITTLE successful to keep other teams out of the box... I mean, Portis sets a record for consecutive 150 yard games midseason & now all of the sudden they are terrible.

I'll say again... it goes back to defenses making the adjustment to not play soft any more and let our little scat-type receivers get easy space off the line for their little 6-8 yard routes... they took those away and BAM, now no passing threat, pack the box, no more running game, no receivers open when Campbell plants back foot, etc.

Harrison and Wayne, with their Hall of Fame QB, just lost to the Chargers and their scary-talented wide receivers Throwing to RBs and TEs didn't look half bad. Kind of reminded me of the Chiefs a few years ago. Maybe we should have tried that.

As for the Patriots, they were consistently good and won 3 Super Bowls before Welker and Moss got there. Remember Deion Branch? That said, if the Skins could get a player like Randy Moss for a 4th round pick, I'm all for it. And the Patriots have the kind of system that could probably take a guy like ARE and make him produce like Welker

As for Tyree, was he really "OPEN"? And can Campbell make the kind of play Eli made to get the pass off? If so, I haven't seen it yet.

Call it depth or whatever you want, but the line(s) has to be the priority. Too much age and too many injuries. Cerrato took Kelly, Thomas and Davis early last year, so it's up to the coaches to get them ready to play. If the WRs can't get open, design more plays to the backs and tight ends, run some gadget plays, get all your RBs involved in the running game, move the pocket around and most importantly, throw them the ball anyway. NFL receivers don't have to be open to make catches.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

Harrison and Wayne, with their Hall of Fame QB, just lost to the Chargers and their scary-talented wide receivers Throwing to RBs and TEs didn't look half bad. Kind of reminded me of the Chiefs a few years ago. Maybe we should have tried that.

As for the Patriots, they were consistently good and won 3 Super Bowls before Welker and Moss got there. Remember Deion Branch? That said, if the Skins could get a player like Randy Moss for a 4th round pick, I'm all for it. And the Patriots have the kind of system that could probably take a guy like ARE and make him produce like Welker

As for Tyree, was he really "OPEN"? And can Campbell make the kind of play Eli made to get the pass off? If so, I haven't seen it yet.

Call it depth or whatever you want, but the line(s) has to be the priority. Too much age and too many injuries. Cerrato took Kelly, Thomas and Davis early last year, so it's up to the coaches to get them ready to play. If the WRs can't get open, design more plays to the backs and tight ends, run some gadget plays, get all your RBs involved in the running game, move the pocket around and most importantly, throw them the ball anyway. NFL receivers don't have to be open to make catches.

Excellent post Deezel!!! The receivers will take time, signing more isn't the answer. It's about the O-LINE. That's where games are won and lost. The Patriots line played great last year until the Super Bowl....that's when they lost.

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

Excellent post Deezel!!! The receivers will take time, signing more isn't the answer. It's about the O-LINE. That's where games are won and lost. The Patriots line played great last year until the Super Bowl....that's when they lost.

Damn Strait. O-Line! The only thing we've been consistently bad at is offense and it all starts with the line. Duke Robinson, Smith from Baylor, or Mack. Draft these guys!!!