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Old 05-14-2008, 01:51 PM   #1
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So bascially you would just say that it sucks for people like this...

Cases like this are not really all that uncommon.
When you have a clear cut case like this one then there should be no trial for the trigger man. He should be put in front of a firing squad.
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Old 05-14-2008, 02:09 PM   #2
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When you have a clear cut case like this one then there should be no trial for the trigger man. He should be put in front of a firing squad.
How is it so clear cut who the trigger man actually is in this case? Do you have photographic evidence? Are there multiple, credible witness who are all saying the exact same thing? Do you have the murder weapon with his finger prints on it? Was the gunman over the age of 17 when this happened?

Listen, I hope these kids are convicted and sent away for a long, LONG time and I hope every day they spend in prison is worse than the last but there is a process that must be followed for every case or we risk living in a country where the police can kick in your door and drag you off to Room 101 just because your neighbor said she thinks you did something bad.
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Old 05-14-2008, 02:24 PM   #3
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How is it so clear cut who the trigger man actually is in this case? Do you have photographic evidence? Are there multiple, credible witness who are all saying the exact same thing? Do you have the murder weapon with his finger prints on it? Was the gunman over the age of 17 when this happened?

Listen, I hope these kids are convicted and sent away for a long, LONG time and I hope every day they spend in prison is worse than the last but there is a process that must be followed for every case or we risk living in a country where the police can kick in your door and drag you off to Room 101 just because your neighbor said she thinks you did something bad.
I believe the guy admitted that he was the triggerman plus the rest of the guys said the same thing. If he didn't do it then why did he confess? He's was 17 when he did the crime and that's old enough to know what the hell you're doing. The process is too long and there is too much BS and wasted tax dollars. I know my way of justice will never ever see the light of day in this country. My point was if it did then we'd see a whole lot less of what happened to ST.
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Old 05-14-2008, 02:31 PM   #4
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I believe the guy admitted that he was the triggerman plus the rest of the guys said the same thing. If he didn't do it then why did he confess?
The above statement ignores the fact that many people have confessed to crimes which they did not commit. I know a guy who admitted to a crime he did not commit after enduring a 12 hour interrogation in which he was sleep deprived and too young to really think things through. Rivera is almost certainly guilty, but experience proves that oftentimes the "clear cut" cases are not what they seem.

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He's was 17 when he did the crime and that's old enough to know what the hell you're doing.
8 year olds are old enough to recognize that when they fire a gun at someone, they can kill them. Should we start executing 8 year olds?

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The process is too long and there is too much BS and wasted tax dollars.
Are you familiar with the legal system, or are you basing your opinion on news articles written by people who are not legal scholars? No offense intended, but people who think that our legal system makes no sense are usually the very same people who have the least amount of experience with and knowledge of the legal system.

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I know my way of justice will never ever see the light of day in this country. My point was if it did then we'd see a whole lot less of what happened to ST.
That's probably true, but would you want to live in that kind of police state? I'm surprised that you have so little regard for our constitution.
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The above statement ignores the fact that many people have confessed to crimes which they did not commit. I know a guy who admitted to a crime he did not commit after enduring a 12 hour interrogation in which he was sleep deprived and too young to really think things through. Rivera is almost certainly guilty, but experience proves that oftentimes the "clear cut" cases are not what they seem.



8 year olds are old enough to recognize that when they fire a gun at someone, they can kill them. Should we start executing 8 year olds?



Are you familiar with the legal system, or are you basing your opinion on news articles written by people who are not legal scholars? No offense intended, but people who think that our legal system makes no sense are usually the very same people who have the least amount of experience with and knowledge of the legal system.



That's probably true, but would you want to live in that kind of police state? I'm surprised that you have so little regard for our constitution.
No we don't need to kill 8 year olds. That's not what I'm saying.
We just have different views on it.
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