DT Stroud on the block!

[Cooley1]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

I'm always skeptical of the "roids" don't know for sure how much they may, or may not have had an affect on a players performance at any given time.

I feel the same way and wanted to look into it a bit to see what exactly this situation entailed. If you can believe the story, which I am on the fence about, then it may make you feel a bit better about his situation.

From Wikipedia:

Marcus and John Henderson have helped give the Jaguars one of the most dominant defensive tackles duos in the NFL today.

Marcus Stroud was selected to the Pro Bowl following the 2003, 2004 and 2005 NFL seasons.

In November of 2007 he was suspended for four weeks for drug/substance abuse. Stroud, a three time pro bowler who tested positive for a banned supplement, had a lot to say about the matter. "The only thing that was tough about it is I didn't want people to think I was a cheater”. "God gave me this talent to play football, and I feel like I do it well, and I don't need any juice or anything else to help me." He said a doctor in Atlanta was the one who gave him this over the counter supplement, when he was rehabbing from his off-season ankle surgery. Stroud later commented, that when he received the supplement from his doctor, he checked the bottles ingredients, with the little booklet the NFL gives each player, for illegal substances, banned in the league. He said no ingredient from the bottle was in the booklet, and he thought he was in the clear to take it to speed the process for his return. So when Stroud found out he had tested positive, he was very surprised and upset. Stroud who was disappointed at the time said it was the first time in his career he had ever used a supplement and it would definitely be the last. When serving the month long absence from his team the Jacksonville Jaguars, he was in the city of Atlanta working out hard at a training facility called Competitive Edge Sports. Their Stroud performed at a high level of training to become ready for his comeback to his team. When asked from the media about his time off from the game he had this to say "When you're the only one home, it's boring," Stroud said. "All your friends are working and they look like they're having a great time out there on the field and I had to watch from afar. It was pretty tough. It was something I had to go through. Now it's time to play ball."

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by Cooley1

I feel the same way and wanted to look into it a bit to see what exactly this situation entailed. If you can believe the story, which I am on the fence about, then it may make you feel a bit better about his situation.

From Wikipedia:

Marcus and John Henderson have helped give the Jaguars one of the most dominant defensive tackles duos in the NFL today.

Marcus Stroud was selected to the Pro Bowl following the 2003, 2004 and 2005 NFL seasons.

In November of 2007 he was suspended for four weeks for drug/substance abuse. Stroud, a three time pro bowler who tested positive for a banned supplement, had a lot to say about the matter. "The only thing that was tough about it is I didn't want people to think I was a cheater”. "God gave me this talent to play football, and I feel like I do it well, and I don't need any juice or anything else to help me." He said a doctor in Atlanta was the one who gave him this over the counter supplement, when he was rehabbing from his off-season ankle surgery. Stroud later commented, that when he received the supplement from his doctor, he checked the bottles ingredients, with the little booklet the NFL gives each player, for illegal substances, banned in the league. He said no ingredient from the bottle was in the booklet, and he thought he was in the clear to take it to speed the process for his return. So when Stroud found out he had tested positive, he was very surprised and upset. Stroud who was disappointed at the time said it was the first time in his career he had ever used a supplement and it would definitely be the last. When serving the month long absence from his team the Jacksonville Jaguars, he was in the city of Atlanta working out hard at a training facility called Competitive Edge Sports. Their Stroud performed at a high level of training to become ready for his comeback to his team. When asked from the media about his time off from the game he had this to say "When you're the only one home, it's boring," Stroud said. "All your friends are working and they look like they're having a great time out there on the field and I had to watch from afar. It was pretty tough. It was something I had to go through. Now it's time to play ball."

I would consider it logical for him have some form of legitimate explanation for his suspention as a result of testing positive.

However, with all the controversy [mainly in Baseball] concerning the use of banned substances namely HGH, as well as a variety of other banned substances, any person now whose name is in any way associated with banned substances draws immediate scrunity.

[sportscurmudgeon]

There is no doubt that Marcus Stroud is a top-shelf DT. The last time the Redskins had a DT as good as he can be when he's healthy was probably Dave Butz. The only question is his availablility now that he is on the NFL rdar screen for substance abuse. And with that question, he brings a hefty contract along with him and the need to trade player(s)/pick(s) to get him.

This is a big gamble with potentially big returns - - either positive or negative.

I'd see what the Jags were asking for in a trade and if it wasn't outrageous I'd take a shot at this one. :thumb:


Someone asked about Javon Kearse since he's available. I'd pass on that one even at the venarable 'vet minimum". "The Freak" is no more; now he's more like "The Squeak".

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Cooley1

I feel the same way and wanted to look into it a bit to see what exactly this situation entailed. If you can believe the story, which I am on the fence about, then it may make you feel a bit better about his situation.

From Wikipedia:

Marcus and John Henderson have helped give the Jaguars one of the most dominant defensive tackles duos in the NFL today.

Marcus Stroud was selected to the Pro Bowl following the 2003, 2004 and 2005 NFL seasons.

In November of 2007 he was suspended for four weeks for drug/substance abuse. Stroud, a three time pro bowler who tested positive for a banned supplement, had a lot to say about the matter. "The only thing that was tough about it is I didn't want people to think I was a cheater”. "God gave me this talent to play football, and I feel like I do it well, and I don't need any juice or anything else to help me." He said a doctor in Atlanta was the one who gave him this over the counter supplement, when he was rehabbing from his off-season ankle surgery. Stroud later commented, that when he received the supplement from his doctor, he checked the bottles ingredients, with the little booklet the NFL gives each player, for illegal substances, banned in the league. He said no ingredient from the bottle was in the booklet, and he thought he was in the clear to take it to speed the process for his return. So when Stroud found out he had tested positive, he was very surprised and upset. Stroud who was disappointed at the time said it was the first time in his career he had ever used a supplement and it would definitely be the last. When serving the month long absence from his team the Jacksonville Jaguars, he was in the city of Atlanta working out hard at a training facility called Competitive Edge Sports. Their Stroud performed at a high level of training to become ready for his comeback to his team. When asked from the media about his time off from the game he had this to say "When you're the only one home, it's boring," Stroud said. "All your friends are working and they look like they're having a great time out there on the field and I had to watch from afar. It was pretty tough. It was something I had to go through. Now it's time to play ball."

If that was me I would presant a bottle of the stuff to the media and the NFL showing what the lable said and some type of receipt (you know the thing you save showing a business expense for taxes). It mey not save him from a sus. but it might make his argument look much better.