# 21 draft pick

[QBall]

Originally Posted by Daseal

Q Ball -- Want something logical? Go through the 1st round picks for the last X years, and tell me how many of the DEs have become real players? As you go through, you'll find very few have. DTs have done a bit better, but defensive line ends up being one of the highest bust positions in the draft.

The important thing about the draft, is there are some positions you absolutely don't need (For us RB, QB [high at least], TE, are positions we can ignore -- other than that go for the best available player.

As far as defense winning championships, I'm not sold on that. It requires a balance. Also, it's not like the NYG defense was heads and shoulders above the Patriots. The top 7 D's were: Dallas, Steelers, TB, NYG, Pack, Skins, Pats.

Defense is important to championships, no doubt. But lets look back a few years at the winners. NYG (nice balance, their offense put up a LOT of points this season), Colts (huge offense over a big defense bears team), Pittsburgh Steelers (great running team, but a defensive and balanced team), Pats (Offense big here, but balanced team again), Pats again (same deal), Bucs (defense over offense in this one, but the Center missing was huge imo), Pats (see above), Baltimore (Absolutely no offense), Rams (offense).

As you can see, most teams especially lately have been balanced. But only two teams, Bucs and TB have pulled it out on defense alone.

Nice post. Don't know if history in draft is apples to apples for this year. I know there are some nice looking players like:

15 Derrick Harvey Jr. Florida Defensive End 6-4 255
5 Chris Long Sr. Virginia Defensive End 6-4 280
2 Glen Dorsey Sr. LSU Defensive Tackle 6-2 310
22 Vernon Gholston Jr. Ohio State Defensive End 6-4 265

LSU guy is tackle but may be too good to pass up but likely gone by then.

Think if we can add a true play-making pass rusher that is good enough to start and a free agent cb or backer that brings more speed our defense could be even better and not give our offense pressure to win games.

We have a good enough offense to win it all right now b/c our defense can be a top 5 unit in 08'. Lets make sure that happens and add to it.

That's my point.

[Big C]

Originally Posted by QBall

Nice post. Don't know if history in draft is apples to apples for this year. I know there are some nice looking players like:

15 Derrick Harvey Jr. Florida Defensive End 6-4 255
5 Chris Long Sr. Virginia Defensive End 6-4 280
2 Glen Dorsey Sr. LSU Defensive Tackle 6-2 310
22 Vernon Gholston Jr. Ohio State Defensive End 6-4 265

LSU guy is tackle but may be too good to pass up but likely gone by then.

Think if we can add a true play-making pass rusher that is good enough to start and a free agent cb or backer that brings more speed our defense could be even better and not give our offense pressure to win games.

We have a good enough offense to win it all right now b/c our defense can be a top 5 unit in 08'. Lets make sure that happens and add to it.

That's my point.

long dorsey have no chance of dropping that far, dorsey or long could even go #1. gholston will likely also be gone