Does anyone feel as if the Redskins Organization is dismantling Joe Gibb's work?

[MTK]

The second that Gibbs walked out the door at Redskins Park everything was up in the air. Let's face it, Gibbs was the glue that held this entire operation together. With him gone, Snyder needs to find people that he is comfortable and confident working with.

If Williams isn't his guy, fair enough. No matter what happens here I'm not going to play this silly blame game and assume Snyder and Cerrato are just hatching this evil plan to undo Gibbs' work. Gibbs' work came undone the second he stepped down. Once the staff is in place I really hope Snyder will explain what exactly went down in this process so we can get some answers straight from the source, rather than all this speculation because really that's all we're going on right now.

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

The second that Gibbs walked out the door at Redskins Park everything was up in the air. Let's face it, Gibbs was the glue that held this entire operation together. With him gone, Snyder needs to find people that he is comfortable and confident working with.

If Williams isn't his guy, fair enough. No matter what happens here I'm not going to play this silly blame game and assume Snyder and Cerrato are just hatching this evil plan to undo Gibbs' work. Gibbs' work came undone the second he stepped down. Once the staff is in place I really hope Snyder will explain what exactly went down in this process so we can get some answers straight from the source, rather than all this speculation because really that's all we're going on right now.

Anything coming out of Snyder's mouth at this point will be pure spin. At Gibbs's farewell press conference, Snyder preached continuity. Tell me how blowing up both the offensive and defensive coaching staffs lends itself to continuity?

On a different topic, we act as if there's no cap issue despite being $20M over at the moment. We ONLY don't have a problem if players like Portis, Moss, and others play ball, and renegotiate. With the presumed bloodbath on the coaching front, don't be surprised if more than just Springs pass on "helping" the Skins cap situation by renegotiating. If that comes to pass, we should expect several high profile cap casualties, further destroying the continuity that The Danny preached after Gibbs stepped down.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

Anything coming out of Snyder's mouth at this point will be pure spin. At Gibbs's farewell press conference, Snyder preached continuity. Tell me how blowing up both the offensive and defensive coaching staffs lends itself to continuity?

On a different topic, we act as if there's no cap issue despite being $20M over at the moment. We ONLY don't have a problem if players like Portis, Moss, and others play ball, and renegotiate. With the presumed bloodbath on the coaching front, don't be surprised if more than just Springs pass on "helping" the Skins cap situation by renegotiating. If that comes to pass, we should expect several high profile cap casualties, further destroying the continuity that The Danny preached after Gibbs stepped down.

Interesting point, but it's not going to come to that. Restructuring is always in the players' benefit, money-wise. It's give-take for the team.

They'd have to want out REAL bad to not restructure.

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Interesting point, but it's not going to come to that. Restructuring is always in the players' benefit, money-wise. It's give-take for the team.

They'd have to want out REAL bad to not restructure.

I agree that players benefit from restructuring, but let's use Portis as an example. I believe he is due somewhere around $5M in salary alone. If we convert that to a signing bonus, he has a guaranteed $5M in hand. I would argue that if he forced the Skins to cut him, he would certainly land more than $5M in SB as a free agent. He greatly helped his case by gaining 500+ yards from scrimmage over the final 4 games of the regular season. I'm not saying that he leaves, but Portis is an example of a top producer still young enough to demand a greater signing bonus in free agency than he could by restructuring.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

Anything coming out of Snyder's mouth at this point will be pure spin. At Gibbs's farewell press conference, Snyder preached continuity. Tell me how blowing up both the offensive and defensive coaching staffs lends itself to continuity?

On a different topic, we act as if there's no cap issue despite being $20M over at the moment. We ONLY don't have a problem if players like Portis, Moss, and others play ball, and renegotiate. With the presumed bloodbath on the coaching front, don't be surprised if more than just Springs pass on "helping" the Skins cap situation by renegotiating. If that comes to pass, we should expect several high profile cap casualties, further destroying the continuity that The Danny preached after Gibbs stepped down.

So basically your mind is made up no matter what anyone says once the dust settles?

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

So basically your mind is made up no matter what anyone says once the dust settles?

My point is that Snyder preached continuity, but his actions don't line up with his words. If he comes back and says that we're trying to build on the foundation that Gibbs built, then yes, I'm saying that is spin.

I'm not a pure Snyder basher - look at my previous posts during the Gibbs tenure. I was one of the few defending Snyder for deferring to Gibbs on all personnel matters. I was also one of the few that blamed Gibbs for Archuleta, Lloyd, and Duckett, when many others wanted to pin those failures on Snyder and Ceratto.

What angers me, as Boswell put it so well, is that Snyder is razing the house down to the foundation for the FOURTH time this decade. If Jason Campbell ever becomes a great QB, it will have been in spite of all the organizational chaos, not because of it.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

My point is that Snyder preached continuity, but his actions don't line up with his words. If he comes back and says that we're trying to build on the foundation that Gibbs built, then yes, I'm saying that is spin.

I'm not a pure Snyder basher - look at my previous posts during the Gibbs tenure. I was one of the few defending Snyder for deferring to Gibbs on all personnel matters. I was also one of the few that blamed Gibbs for Archuleta, Lloyd, and Duckett, when many others wanted to pin those failures on Snyder and Ceratto.

What angers me, as Boswell put it so well, is that Snyder is razing the house down to the foundation for the FOURTH time this decade. If Jason Campbell ever becomes a great QB, it will have been in spite of all the organizational chaos, not because of it.

Well at least you have now made your excuse for JC.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

The second that Gibbs walked out the door at Redskins Park everything was up in the air. Let's face it, Gibbs was the glue that held this entire operation together. With him gone, Snyder needs to find people that he is comfortable and confident working with.

If Williams isn't his guy, fair enough. No matter what happens here I'm not going to play this silly blame game and assume Snyder and Cerrato are just hatching this evil plan to undo Gibbs' work. Gibbs' work came undone the second he stepped down. Once the staff is in place I really hope Snyder will explain what exactly went down in this process so we can get some answers straight from the source, rather than all this speculation because really that's all we're going on right now.

You are absolutely correct, and that's why is has become apearent that everything associated with Joe Gibbs is in jepordy. Perhaps it would have been different had there been time to formulate a plan B ahead of time, but the departure of Gibbs was unexpected, therefore it shouldn't come as a suprise to anyone that changes will be forthcoming.