Pourin' Some Kool-Aid for My Homeys, Redskins Will Beat Dallas

[TheBigD]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

See my response.

I know you got it, I wast trying to tell him that.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by TheBigD

Except Dallas seems to own the second half and the Redskins are trying to stay awake the second half from all the somewhat boring and very conservative paly-calling.

Honestly, unless the Cowboys put up Patriot-like numbers on offense (which somehow I think they will ) playing from behind seems to be the best thing for the Redskins.

[TheBigD]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Honestly, unless the Cowboys put up Patriot-like numbers on offense (which somehow I think they will ) playing from behind seems to be the best thing for the Redskins.

How is that the BEST thing for the Redskins?

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Because if we're leading we basically start running the ball every down and attempt to run out with clock with 30 minutes left in the second half.

It's very exciting to watch, you'll see...

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by TheBigD

I think you didn't get what I was trying to say. I meant compare him to Brady or Roethlisberger(sp) after 16 games into their careers.

That's an unfair comparison. Brady and Roethlisberger both played for great teams. Campbell compares quite favorably to young QBs of teams stuck in the mediocre middle of the NFL. I've seen enough to feel that Campbell will be a star in this league.

[TheBigD]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Because if we're leading we basically start running the ball every down and attempt to run out with clock with 30 minutes left in the second half.

It's very exciting to watch, you'll see...

You make a good point. I don't think that will help the Redskins in the Cowboys game though. If they get too far behind, aint no catching em. But if they do try to pass alot and get something going, maybe that will help in the upcoming games.

[TheBigD]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

That's an unfair comparison. Brady and Roethlisberger both played for great teams. Campbell compares quite favorably to young QBs of teams stuck in the mediocre middle of the NFL. I've seen enough to feel that Campbell will be a star in this league.

Pittsburgh was not a great team when Roethlisberger was inserted into the starting line-up. Maddox made the team look average at best. Ben helped them win games and led them to a championship.

Besides, the Skins are not a "medicre" team. The D is a really good one. Tell me which game did the D get blown out other than the NE game (which we all know can't be stopped). The offense is not helping out. Whether it is the play-calling, WRs or lack their of, or simply the coaching staff not seeing enough in JC in practice to take a chance during the game is a whole another issue.

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by TheBigD

Pittsburgh was not a great team when Roethlisberger was inserted into the starting line-up. Maddox made the team look average at best. Ben helped them win games and led them to a championship.

Besides, the Skins are not a "medicre" team. The D is a really good one. Tell me which game did the D get blown out other than the NE game (which we all know can't be stopped). The offense is not helping out. Whether it is the play-calling, WRs or lack their of, or simply the coaching staff not seeing enough in JC in practice to take a chance during the game is a whole another issue.

Pittsburgh had an outstanding O-line, a still-productive Jerome Bettis, Hines Ward, Plaxico Burress, Randle El and a pretty damn strong D when Roethlisberger was a rookie. Of course Ben was a huge upgrade from Tommy Maddox, as Jason Campbell would be over Maddox as well.

As for mediocrity, I'd say that the Skins have pretty well defined the term for the last 15 years with the exception of '99 and '05. I don't think it's fair to pin all offensive shortcomings this season on Campbell given the O-line injuries plus Moss's week to week status being up in the air.

A final point, you lumped Campbell's overthrows in your earlier criticism of his decision making. Making a good read but a poor throw does not constitute a poor decision - that is a breakdown in execution. He executed deep throws beautifully to Thrash twice and Randle El (a drop) this past game.

[TheBigD]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

Pittsburgh had an outstanding O-line, a still-productive Jerome Bettis, Hines Ward, Plaxico Burress, Randle El and a pretty damn strong D when Roethlisberger was a rookie. Of course Ben was a huge upgrade from Tommy Maddox, as Jason Campbell would be over Maddox as well.

As for mediocrity, I'd say that the Skins have pretty well defined the term for the last 15 years with the exception of '99 and '05. I don't think it's fair to pin all offensive shortcomings this season on Campbell given the O-line injuries plus Moss's week to week status being up in the air.

A final point, you lumped Campbell's overthrows in your earlier criticism of his decision making. Making a good read but a poor throw does not constitute a poor decision - that is a breakdown in execution. He executed deep throws beautifully to Thrash twice and Randle El (a drop) this past game.

While it is true that the O line has been decimated with injuries, that shouldn't be used as an excuse. The guys that replaced them didn't fall of the turnip truck, I am sure they played football before.

You are right the JC shouldn't be blamed for all the offensive shortcomings, but at least for some. Everyone tends to omit him from the blame game that goes around after a loss. He seems to be protected from any criticism.

About his execution, I just can't forget the wide open Moss who beat the Jets DB and JC simply overthrew him. Lloyd was open last game and could have had a touchdown if the ball was thrown better. Like I said before, JC throws those deep passes with one thing in mind "no INTs".

Anyways, this whole thing started because posters compared him to Alex Smith, Rex, and Leinart. I just asked why compare him to those guys, do you want him to end up like any of those mentioned?

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by TheBigD

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Anyways, this whole thing started because posters compared him to Alex Smith, Rex, and Leinart. I just asked why compare him to those guys, do you want him to end up like any of those mentioned?

Of that group, I only see Leinart possibly ending up on par with Campbell, since he has 2 great WRs plus a 6'8" TE that the Arizona offense is just beginning to discover. Give Campbell another year in this offense, and I believe you'll see him make that quantum leap. He threw the ball with accuracy and confidence against Philly, so I'm hoping Saunders/Gibbs start to give him more freedom to make plays.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by TheBigD

While it is true that the O line has been decimated with injuries, that shouldn't be used as an excuse. The guys that replaced them didn't fall of the turnip truck, I am sure they played football before.

You are right the JC shouldn't be blamed for all the offensive shortcomings, but at least for some. Everyone tends to omit him from the blame game that goes around after a loss. He seems to be protected from any criticism.

About his execution, I just can't forget the wide open Moss who beat the Jets DB and JC simply overthrew him. Lloyd was open last game and could have had a touchdown if the ball was thrown better. Like I said before, JC throws those deep passes with one thing in mind "no INTs".

Anyways, this whole thing started because posters compared him to Alex Smith, Rex, and Leinart. I just asked why compare him to those guys, do you want him to end up like any of those mentioned?

I think JC has showed more a lot more promise than Leinart, Alex Smith, and Jay Cutler. He's certainly playing much better right now than Madden coverboy Vince Young. He has a rifle arm and is steadily improving. Plus, inside the redzone his numbers are spectacular. Brady-esque. Redzone: He has 9TDs passing, 1 rushing TD, 64% completions, 0 INTs, and a rating of 115.7. That's poise.

Peyton Manning threw 28 INTs in his first 16 games. Campbell has 19 TDs and only 13 INTs in his first 16. "When is he going to develop into a good QB" you ask? Umm, turn on the TV each Sunday. It's happening.

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by TheBigD

Besides, the Skins are not a "medicre" team. The D is a really good one. Tell me which game did the D get blown out other than the NE game (which we all know can't be stopped). The offense is not helping out. Whether it is the play-calling, WRs or lack their of, or simply the coaching staff not seeing enough in JC in practice to take a chance during the game is a whole another issue.

Without Taylor the defense is very average. The schemes we were using were designed around his abilities. It will be tough to deal with the Cowboys passing game with that limitation. I can't imagine a worse injury to have going in to this game.

If we are to have a chance we need Dallas to mail this one in like they did against Buffalo AND get some extra luck to go with it.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

Without Taylor the defense is very average. The schemes we were using were designed around his abilities. It will be tough to deal with the Cowboys passing game with that limitation. I can't imagine a worse injury to have going in to this game.

If we are to have a chance we need Dallas to mail this one in like they did against Buffalo AND get some extra luck to go with it.

Is it just me, or does it seem that whenever we lose just one guy on defense everything falls apart? Last year it was Springs, and the D completely collapsed. Against Philly, Sean Taylor goes out, and the Eagles are running up and down the field practially at will.

[paulskinsfan]

Well, I never got a reply from Mattyk, so I guess the only bet that's on is with Smootsmack.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Is it just me, or does it seem that whenever we lose just one guy on defense everything falls apart? Last year it was Springs, and the D completely collapsed. Against Philly, Sean Taylor goes out, and the Eagles are running up and down the field practially at will.

Last year our D was awful, regardless of Springs. This year the D is really inconsistent and looks like it will have serious problems. Then again, they've got injuries to Rogers, Smoot, Taylor, Washington, and Griffin.