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[hooskins]

how about not attacking other members of the forum? I simply think respect is something people on this forum need to work on. I know I use to have a huge problem with that in the past.

Also most people don't realize we are very lucky to have mods that tolerate dissent and arguments against themselves. Many boards don't even allow criticism. It just annoys me when people call mod's "nazi's" and especially when these guys are working their asses off for us for us.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by hooskins

how about not attacking other members of the forum? I simply think respect is something people on this forum need to work on. I know I use to have a huge problem with that in the past.

Also most people don't realize we are very lucky to have mods that tolerate dissent and arguments against themselves. Many boards don't even allow criticism. It just annoys me when people call mod's "nazi's" and especially when these guys are working their asses off for us for us.

Good post. I must admit, that it is sometimes hard for me to be nice to people that I think are a-holes. If you are nice and respectful of other people, I will be nice to you regardless of your opinions. But, I suppose, as a mod, I should probably be courteous to a-holes and nice guys alike.

The rub is that it is often hard to be a mod (and be nice to everyone) and still clamp down on people that are causing trouble. Ironically, sometimes going after offenders can stir the pot and cause trouble.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by hooskins

how about not attacking other members of the forum? I simply think respect is something people on this forum need to work on. I know I use to have a huge problem with that in the past.

Also most people don't realize we are very lucky to have mods that tolerate dissent and arguments against themselves. Many boards don't even allow criticism. It just annoys me when people call mod's "nazi's" and especially when these guys are working their asses off for us for us.

It's probably not noticable since we don't make it public when someone is booted, but we're starting to toughen up. Any blatant disrespect of another member or mod and people are getting run right outta here, no questions asked.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

It's probably not noticable since we don't make it public when someone is booted, but we're starting to toughen up. Any blatant disrespect of another member or mod and people are getting run right outta here, no questions asked.

the ego is power drunk and out of control. ban the ego, burn the ego...

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by hooskins

how about not attacking other members of the forum? I simply think respect is something people on this forum need to work on. I know I use to have a huge problem with that in the past.

Also most people don't realize we are very lucky to have mods that tolerate dissent and arguments against themselves. Many boards don't even allow criticism. It just annoys me when people call mod's "nazi's" and especially when these guys are working their asses off for us for us.

Being an asshole has it's place though (said the asshole).

But seriously, if people are cluttering the boards with duplicate threads or starting ridiculous threads, why wait for the mods? There should be a degree of vigilance, everyone should feel free to jump on someone for being a retard. There's an unspoken social aspect to this site, one where nobody wants to feel like the new kid at school who got made fun of for his haircut. In my opinion, mocking definitely has it's place. While the mods can lay down the law, we as members can still reinforce the message. We may not be able to ban or give official reprimands, but we can make people feel silly, that's for darn sure. It's a big site, especially during the season. If you see someone being a retard by starting dup threads or writing illegibly, let them know it. This also sends the message to the general public that we as members stand behind the mods; nobody likes dup threads.

Now, I'm NOT advocating personal attacks. I'm not saying jump all over their religious beliefs or something. Just give 'em what's coming to them. You want to act like a retard, you get treated like a retard. It's that simple.

So if people criticize the mods for being Nazi's, just release the hounds on 'em. The mods, as site administration, can't really come down on idiots the way they like to. When someone starts a dup thread, I get a sense that's almost palpable that Matty is THIS CLOSE to writing a post that says "LOOK AROUND BEFORE YOU POST, RETARD." But he can't do that, so he just links to the other thread and locks it. But believe me, he wants to say it. So, let a non-mod say it for him. He can live vicariously through us.

Don't mean to put words in your mouth, Matty, but that's the way I see it.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Being an asshole has it's place though (said the asshole).

But seriously, if people are cluttering the boards with duplicate threads or starting ridiculous threads, why wait for the mods? There should be a degree of vigilance, everyone should feel free to jump on someone for being a retard. There's an unspoken social aspect to this site, one where nobody wants to feel like the new kid at school who got made fun of for his haircut. In my opinion, mocking definitely has it's place. While the mods can lay down the law, we as members can still reinforce the message. We may not be able to ban or give official reprimands, but we can make people feel silly, that's for darn sure. It's a big site, especially during the season. If you see someone being a retard by starting dup threads or writing illegibly, let them know it. This also sends the message to the general public that we as members stand behind the mods; nobody likes dup threads.

Now, I'm NOT advocating personal attacks. I'm not saying jump all over their religious beliefs or something. Just give 'em what's coming to them. You want to act like a retard, you get treated like a retard. It's that simple.

So if people criticize the mods for being Nazi's, just release the hounds on 'em. The mods, as site administration, can't really come down on idiots the way they like to. When someone starts a dup thread, I get a sense that's almost palpable that Matty is THIS CLOSE to writing a post that says "LOOK AROUND BEFORE YOU POST, RETARD." But he can't do that, so he just links to the other thread and locks it. But believe me, he wants to say it. So, let a non-mod say it for him. He can live vicariously through us.

Don't mean to put words in your mouth, Matty, but that's the way I see it.

Keep in mind, the mods speak to offenders privately and we keep a record of who the repeat offenders are. And amongst us we discuss the site and its troublemakers on a nearly daily basis.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Keep in mind, the mods speak to offenders privately and we keep a record of who the repeat offenders are. And amongst us we discuss the site and its troublemakers on a nearly daily basis.

So would you prefer that us members not mock people for doing something like creating dup threads or writing like a kindergartner?

I'll do whatever you want, just figured that there's a social aspect involved when a group comes down on somebody. Plus I figured it's a way for us members to reinforce your message.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

So would you prefer that us members not mock people for doing something like creating dup threads or writing like a kindergartner?

I'll do whatever you want, just figured that there's a social aspect involved when a group comes down on somebody. Plus I figured it's a way for us members to reinforce your message.

I think a.) the perception that we just lock a thread and move on is inaccurate and b.) there's a really fine line here when someone starts to mock another because the "victim" becomes defensive and problems start to escalate

There's no right answer I suppose. I think the key is to always remember you should "attack the post, not the poster"

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I think a.) the perception that we just lock a thread and move on is inaccurate and b.) there's a really fine line here when someone starts to mock another because the "victim" becomes defensive and problems start to escalate

There's no right answer I suppose. I think the key is to always remember you should "attack the post, not the poster"

The problem is people are bound to take things the wrong way no matter what you do.

Personally I'm getting tired of tip toeing around certain people. I've found that some people aren't worth saving, and lately I've been booting people left and right it seems. We're cleaning house you could say, because frankly it's not worth letting a few morons ruin things for everyone else.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

The problem is people are bound to take things the wrong way no matter what you do.

Personally I'm getting tired of tip toeing around certain people. I've found that some people aren't worth saving, and lately I've been booting people left and right it seems. We're cleaning house you could say, because frankly it's not worth letting a few morons ruin things for everyone else.

True, true. We are taking a harder stance on many people. Like you say, some people aren't worth saving.

[BleedBurgundy]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

The problem is people are bound to take things the wrong way no matter what you do.

Personally I'm getting tired of tip toeing around certain people. I've found that some people aren't worth saving, and lately I've been booting people left and right it seems. We're cleaning house you could say, because frankly it's not worth letting a few morons ruin things for everyone else.

About time. Thanks for this thread/post. Lately I've been wanting to avoid this site instead of looking forward to logging on...

[Dlyne8r]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

The problem is people are bound to take things the wrong way no matter what you do.

Personally I'm getting tired of tip toeing around certain people. I've found that some people aren't worth saving, and lately I've been booting people left and right it seems. We're cleaning house you could say, because frankly it's not worth letting a few morons ruin things for everyone else.

And there were quite a few "morons" on the thread re: Bill Belichick's apparent lack of class this past weekend. It became personal with some and after awhile I just bailed out to just read some of the insane and immoral comments. It was like reading some weird fiction novel or something. Anyway, thanks for doing the dirty work for the rest of us that sincerely enjoy this site.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I think a.) the perception that we just lock a thread and move on is inaccurate and b.) there's a really fine line here when someone starts to mock another because the "victim" becomes defensive and problems start to escalate

There's no right answer I suppose. I think the key is to always remember you should "attack the post, not the poster"

Fair enough, I can do that. I'll make sure I refer to the thread or the post as retarded, rather than saying the person who wrote it is retarded.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Fair enough, I can do that. I'll make sure I refer to the thread or the post as retarded, rather than saying the person who wrote it is retarded.

You should have been a lawyer.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Being an asshole has it's place though (said the asshole).

But seriously, if people are cluttering the boards with duplicate threads or starting ridiculous threads, why wait for the mods? There should be a degree of vigilance, everyone should feel free to jump on someone for being a retard. There's an unspoken social aspect to this site, one where nobody wants to feel like the new kid at school who got made fun of for his haircut. In my opinion, mocking definitely has it's place. While the mods can lay down the law, we as members can still reinforce the message. We may not be able to ban or give official reprimands, but we can make people feel silly, that's for darn sure. It's a big site, especially during the season. If you see someone being a retard by starting dup threads or writing illegibly, let them know it. This also sends the message to the general public that we as members stand behind the mods; nobody likes dup threads.

Now, I'm NOT advocating personal attacks. I'm not saying jump all over their religious beliefs or something. Just give 'em what's coming to them. You want to act like a retard, you get treated like a retard. It's that simple.

So if people criticize the mods for being Nazi's, just release the hounds on 'em. The mods, as site administration, can't really come down on idiots the way they like to. When someone starts a dup thread, I get a sense that's almost palpable that Matty is THIS CLOSE to writing a post that says "LOOK AROUND BEFORE YOU POST, RETARD." But he can't do that, so he just links to the other thread and locks it. But believe me, he wants to say it. So, let a non-mod say it for him. He can live vicariously through us.

Don't mean to put words in your mouth, Matty, but that's the way I see it.

LOL

Yep, pretty much sums it up.